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关于扑克王随意判定我为伙牌!还专业反伙牌?

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51#
Turkey 发表于 2019-3-25 08:25:18 | 只看该作者
这是扑克王安全负责人昨天在2+2上的更新(谷歌翻译):

回复:Pokerking Asia冻结账户。

只是为了给大家一个更新。到目前为止,我们处理并通知了19个社区。这些社区中的大多数都没有解冻,资金已退还或正在返还给玩家。

扑克王采取了保守但积极的态度。如果我们的标准和安全小组的证据不足,则将公布相关帐户。但是,如果帐户与机器人,共谋者或任何其他形式的作弊相关联,我们将采取最积极的方式处理该帐户。

总的来说,我知道这个过程很慢,我们无法处理大量的数据。在此期间,我们不得不冻结几个知名高风险玩家的账户 - 其中许多人在社区和网站上有很大的影响力。为了社区的利益,我们必须尽职尽责。在大多数情况下,我们收到了来自这些参与者的非常积极的反馈(他们鼓励采用安全和谨慎的方法来发布这些账户)。

最后一点说明。有问题的社区(几个受影响的玩家已经表达了他们的意见)是一个明显的切割和令人震惊的勾结案例。作为稳定的一部分并与涉及共谋的账户建立财务关系涉及有问题的账户。

Re: Pokerking Asia frozen accounts.

Just to give everyone an update. We have thus far processed and notified 19 communities. Most of these communities were unfrozen and the money has been returned or is in the process of being returned to the players.

Poker King has taken a conservative but aggressive approach. If evidence is insufficient by our standards and that of the security panel, the accounts in question will be released. If however, an account is linked to accounts that are bots, colluders, or any other form of cheating we will take the most aggressive approach in dealing with that account.

Overall, I understand that this process has been slow and we were unequipped to handle the amount of data. During this period, we had to freeze accounts of several well known high stakes players - many of whom have significant influence in the community and money on the site. We had to do our diligence for the benefit of our community. For the most part, we have received extremely positive feedback from these players (who are encouraging a safe and cautious approach to releasing these accounts).

One final note. The community in question (where several affected players have come on voice their opinion) was a clear cut and egregious case of collusion. Being part of a stable and having a financial relationship with accounts involved in collusion implicates the account in question.

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henryliu 发表于 2019-3-25 13:57:41 | 只看该作者
我看到2+2上面有中国玩家发帖说自己整个社区被封,连带朋友的社区也无法登录后台,因为朋友是通过他的邀请码注册的帐号。

这次扑克王反伙牌是动真格了,有嫌疑的全部先冻结,然后再慢慢核查。看来还真是要小心一些。
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大黑 发表于 2019-3-26 18:54:51 | 只看该作者
我也有同样的经历欲加之罪
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Turkey 发表于 2019-3-27 06:05:25 | 只看该作者
这是扑克王安全负责人昨天在2+2上的更新(谷歌翻译):

只是为了给大家一个更新:

1)我们现在处理了大约25个左右的社区。 社区负责人已收到通知,并被要求将钱退还给球员(如果他们被释放)。 对于被关闭的帐户(例如用于僵尸或共谋),帐户将有通知告知玩家结果。

2)在一些社区中需要进行额外调查,会有少量帐户(通常在每个社区中有0-3个帐户)。 这些账户要么具有不确定的证据,要么是潜在的机器人账户持有账户。

3)将有机会提出申诉和我们现在为机器人账户建立的流程(对于共谋,存在标准流程)。

4)我们可能距离完成其他社区还有几天时间(大约剩下10个)。 我们感谢社区在经历这个困难时期时的耐心。

Just to give everyone an update:

1) We have processed around 25 or so communities now. The communities heads have been notified and have been asked to return the money to the players (if they are being released). For accounts being shut down (e.g. for botting or collusion), accounts will have a notification informing the player of the outcome.

2) There will be a handful accounts (usually between 0-3 accounts in each community) that need additional investigation within some of these communities. These accounts are ones that either have inconclusive evidence or are potential holding accounts for the bot rings.

3) There will be an opportunity to appeal and a process we're establishing now for bot accounts (for collusion there is a standard process in place).

4) We are likely a couple days away from completing the rest of the communities (approximately 10 remain). We appreciate the patience from the community as we get through this difficult time.
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Turkey 发表于 2019-3-27 06:13:17 | 只看该作者
2+2论坛对扑克王这次反伙牌和机器人的大规模行动,从最开始的质疑和反对逐步变成理解和赞赏。这是其中一篇回复。

只是想再次放弃我的2cents,我之前在这个帖子中多次回复。今天是光荣的一天,经过4个星期的不确定性后,我收回了我的钱,没有动过。

我一开始很担心,因为没有人知道发生了什么,然后在3个星期后,这个线程突然出现,我越来越担心。这个过程似乎很苛刻,但公平。这就是我所依赖的,看到我在生活中从来没有做过任何“错误”的事情,无论是串通,僵尸,还是什么。

我和我的室友在网站上停留了大约2万美元,为期4周,今天我们都没事了,没什么可担心的。只是想分享,所以仍在等待的人可能会有一些希望。如果你是无辜的,我会相信这个过程。

我从一开始就对整个操作感到高兴和乐观,因为PK似乎是第一个提供真实游戏并且正在积极争取的额外英里应用程序。我可以在这里继续和****关于PM再过10分钟,但无论如何大家都知道。

所有人还在等待,它不应该再长了。

Just wanted to drop my 2cents again, i have replied multiple times in this thread before. Today was the glorious day, i got my money back, untouched, after exactly 4 weeks of uncertainty.

I was very worried in the beginning obv because nobody knew what was going on, then after 3 weeks this thread popped up and i got less and less worried. the process seems harsh, but fair. that is what i counted on, seeing i have never done anything "wrong" in poker in my life in terms of colluding, botting, whatever.

Me and my roommate had ~$20k USD stuck on the site for 4 weeks and we both got out fine today, nothing to worry. Just wanted to share so people who are still waiting might catch some hope. If you are innocent, i would trust in the process.

I was always happy and onboard with the whole operation right from the beginning, as PK seems to be the first asian app that goes the extra mile to provide REAL games and is trying to fight actively. I could go on and **** about PM here for another 10min but everybody knows anyway.

gl to everyone still waiting, it shouldnt be long anymore.
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Turkey 发表于 2019-3-27 06:19:27 | 只看该作者
我只想插话并说几周之后,我与社区其他成员的帐户都被解冻了。
我一开始就和其他人一样沮丧,因为我不确定发生了什么。 但在与一个新的安全团队的成员交谈以便领导这项调查之后,我对调查背后的诚意感觉好多了。
您可以放心,客观地查看所有帐户,并根据数据说明做出决策。
对每个仍处于不确定状态的人都有耐心和耐心。
I just wanted to chime in and say that after a couple of weeks my accounts with the rest of my community were unfrozen.
I was just as frustrated as everybody else in here in the beginning since I wasnt really sure what was going on . But after talking to a member of the new security team put in place to lead this investigation I felt a lot better about the sincerity behind the investigation.
You can rest assured that all accounts will be looked at objectively and the decision made will be based on what the data says.
gl and patience to everyone still in limbo.
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bluffer 发表于 2019-3-27 11:09:10 | 只看该作者
这么多成功案例,那楼主也有希望了,耐心等待一下吧。无辜的账号即便被冻结,查清楚了钱也会被退还。
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shy 发表于 2019-3-29 14:13:29 | 只看该作者
大家快来赚500万


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ggyy1414 发表于 2019-3-29 21:11:09 来自手机 | 只看该作者
这次确实很多无辜账号被封,已经在慢慢的解封,六楼说的没其它人抱怨,只是你没看到而已,你怎么知道没其它人抱怨?2+2上都炒翻天了。2+2上n&g第一页有,里面有扑克王安全主管的回复,楼主可以去看看。其实我觉得先封账号再查是问题的,如果实在要先封号,也要尽快的解决
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ggyy1414 发表于 2019-3-29 21:12:56 来自手机 | 只看该作者
动不动就质疑别人动机,只要有人发帖说关于扑克王的事,就说人是利益相关方,这次被打了脸吗?
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