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Aria Poker Room Omaha 8/b Hand

In the last few months of 2010 I played a bunch of times in a $200-$400 limit “Mixed game” in the “Ivey room” at the amazing Aria Hotel.  The game is spread everyday at 1:00 pm by Jon Roberte Bellande, Tommy Fischer, and a rotating cast of characters.  This mixed game features seven different games: Hold’em, 2-7 triple draw, Omaha 8/b (high/low split), Seven Card Stud, Seven Card Stud 8/b (high/low split), Badugi, and Badeucey (1/2 2-7, 1/2 Badugi - a popular action game that Bellande invented).  One really cool thing about playing in the “Ivey room,” is that you can order food from all of the five star restaurants at the Aria Hotel, for free!

Late one night a hand came up that was so entertaining, that I felt compelled to write about it, even though it was an Omaha 8/b hand! (I usually write about Texas Hold’em in this column.)  A well known high limit player named “Cuco” (Kew Ko) raised it up to $400 to go in first position.  In third position Luis Velador folded his hand, but Velador threw his hand over to Arturo Diaz (sitting in fourth position) to inspect--after Diaz folded.  Then Jay Abujawdeh called on the button, I folded in the small blind, and Layne Flack called from the big blind.  I asked Diaz to see the hole cards that Velador had folded, and Diaz tossed me Velador’s hand: A-2-J-9, all off suit (more analysis below).  The flop came down 9c-9s-5d, Flack checked, Cuco checked, and Abujawdeh checked.  Of course, Diaz and I silently chuckled at Velador, who would have flopped trip nines had he not made a very fancy fold!  The turn card was the three of hearts, Flack bet $400, Cuco called, and Abujawdeh called.  The river was a king, Flack checked, Cuco instantly bet $400, Abujawdeh quickly called, and Flack folded.  Cuco said, “You win.”  Abujawdeh waited for Cuco to showdown his hand, and when Cuco threw his hand into the muck (barely), Abujawdeh flipped up A-J-6-2!  Cuco immediately swore as he plucked his hand out of the muck and berated himself, saying, “I had you tied!  Why did I fold my hand for free?  I never do that!”  Everyone chuckled at the absurdity of the situation as Cuco showed down his now dead hand: A-J-4-2.

Let’s take a closer look at this hand.  Laying down A-2-J-9 is controversial!  Most of us would not fold this hand before the flop in a $200-$400 limit game.  To get a perspective on this fold, I called Mike “The mouth” Matusow, who we all know to be one of the best Omaha 8/b players on the planet.  Matusow told me, “Luis had an auto-fold.” I said, “What, an auto-fold?!?  Why, because Cuco raised it up in first position?”  Matusow said, “Yes, I mean Cuco is a super tight player and he knows how to play Omaha 8/b, thus if Cuco raises it up in first position, then he figures to have A-A as part of his hand, or A-K-2.  There are about three people in the world that I would fold A-J-9-2 too when they raise it up under the gun: Cuco, Mark Gregorich, and Scotty Nguyen.  However, against everyone else on the planet I would play that hand.”

Matusow continues, “I love Cuco’s $400 bet on the river, and it should have won him the pot.  But what a great call Abujawdeh made!  And the fact that he waited for Cuco to fold his hand, and then showed A-J high, makes that hand so funny!  Sounds like the kiddie game is down the street at Aria Hotel!  [Matusow ends his analysis with his famous ESPN quote!]”

学习中，但愿我能成为poker王

呵呵。楼上的口气不小啊

Kid, I Bet you were there!

At the $10,000 buy in WPT (World Poker Tour) “Doyle Brunson Five Diamond World Poker Classic” tournament in December at the Bellagio, I arrived on Day Two ready to rock and roll!  I sat down at a table with some tough players, featuring: Eric Baldwin, Sorel Mizzi, and Shawn Buchanon.  The first thing I did was remind Mizzi that he had overplayed a hand against me at the Bicycle Club’s WPT event a few months back.  But Mizzi claimed that he wasn’t even at my table, so I said, “I bet you were.”  That simple little offer ended up with me betting Mizzi $5,000 to his $8,000 that he was there.  Then we called someone else I knew to be at the table that day; Barry Greenstein, and…I lost!  Somehow I had confused Mizzi with Shane “Shaniac” Schleger!  Mizzi rubbed it in further (fair enough) by keeping the white $5,000 “Aria Hotel and Casino” chip that I had paid him as his card protector!  Was this a sign of things to come?

A few hours later, with the blinds at $800-$1,600, Mizzi opened for $3,500 under the gun.  For the record, Mizzi was playing a lot of hands, and playing them very aggressively (standard for him).  I called $3,500 in fourth position with 5-5, and the big blind moved all in for $2,400 total; we now had a main pot of $9,000, and side pot of $2,200.  The flop came down As-Qh-5d, Mizzi fired out $5,800, and I called.  A king hit on the turn, Mizzi checked, I fired out $7,500 (out of my $22,000) or so, and Mizzi called.  The river was a ten (A-Q-5-K-10), Mizzi fired out $10,000, and I called.  Mizzi flipped up K-J to claim the pot with a straight, and I flipped up my 5-5.  You could hear a pin drop as my hand hit the table face up.  Everyone at that table was bracing themselves, because it was time for the Poker Brat to go off!  Everyone at that table had seen it before, and you—the reader—have too: on ESPN!  Only somehow, I dug down deep and I didn’t say a word.  Two hands later I moved my last $5,400 all in with Qs-Js, Baldwin called me with As-Ks, and it was over.

Let’s take a closer look at this hand.  Mizzi’s under the gun $3,500 open with K-J is OK, especially as he has a loose aggressive style.  But, I might not coach a beginner to raise UTG with K-J off suit.  My $3,500 call before the flop with 5-5 was OK.  But, I probably would not have called an opening bet of say, $5,000.  I love Mizzi’s $5,800 bet on the flop.  The fact that we had a third player in thwe pot who was all in, and only a small side pot gives Mizzi’s bet more strength.  Generally, a bet into a small side pot means that the player that is making the bet has something.  I mean, why would a player with nothing make a bet to protect an all in player?  I love my $5,800 smooth call here!  I assumed that Mizzi was drawing dead, or drawing to runner-runner, and I was giving Mizzi a chance to make a bet with A-J, A-10, K-Q, or just a plain old bluff on fourth street.

On fourth street, Mizzi’s check was OK, and I love my $7,500 bet.  I assumed that Mizzi was drawing live to only either a ten, or a jack, and if Mizzi already had two pair that he would move all in right then and right there.  I bet $7,500 into the $23,000 pot hoping to get a weak call.  Of course, some players would say that I should have bet more than $7,500 to protect my hand.  However, I was right about one thing: Mizzi had four wins, and thus he was a ten-to-one underdog (44 cards win for me – four cards win for him).

Can Mizzi fold his hand for $7,500?  I guess that Mizzi was assuming that he would win the pot with a king (wrong), a jack (wrong), or a ten.  And there was some chance that he had the best hand, right?  I guess I cannot blame Mizzi for calling $7,500.  After all, I did play the hand like I was weak, and I did lure him in there.  Mizzi’s $10,000 bet on the river was perfect!  If he had bet all of my chips ($15,000 or so), then I would have had to give serious consideration to folding my hand.  Could I have folded for Mizzi’s $10,000 bet on the river?  I do not think so.  I mean, Mizzi could have made two pair like ace and tens.  It was just a bad beat, plain and simple, and at least I handled myself well in defeat!

回复 284# Phil Hellmuth


     哈哈，基本上是便宜买卖没好货。。。 其实这赌基本上Hellmuth从一开始就输了：哪有小足记不得名人的？只有名人记不住小足。偏是Hellmuth要显示自己没错，那么+EV的事都不做，那不明显自己坏牌吗？至于运气的事，我还是同情Hellmuth的。唉，我真是相信星座，我觉得他犯的错误，我一样的犯，而且犯的时候感觉都是一样的。

回复 284# Phil Hellmuth

孩子，我敢打赌，你在那里！

在WPT（世界扑克巡回赛）十二月份于Bellagio进行的一万美元买入的“Doyle Brunson五钻世界扑克经典赛”上，我第二天到达，准备施展身手。 我坐在一个有几个好牌手的桌子上，包括：Eric Baldwin, Sorel Mizzi, 还有Shawn Buchanon。上桌后我做的第一件事是提醒Mizzi几个月前在The Bicycle Club举行的WPT（世界扑克巡回赛）赛事上和我打时他把自己的牌打过了。但是Mizzi声称，他根本不在我的桌子上。于是我说：“我打赌你在。”那样简单的话，以我赌给Mizzi5,000美元投注Mizzi在那里，他8,000美元投注给我他不在那里。然后，我们叫了一个我知道那一天在桌上的人 -- Barry Greenstein。。。我输了！不知怎么我把Mizzi和Shane "Shaniac" Schleger搞混了!  Mizzi进一步掠夺（够公平）-- 把我付给他的白色5,000美元“Aria Hotel and Casino”筹码用作他的护牌符！ 这是不是对将要发生的事的征兆？

几个小时后，当大小盲为800/1600时，Mizzi在枪口下以3500开叫。根据记录，Mizzi玩很多手牌，并且打的很凶（对他来说是正常的）。 我在第四位手拿5-5，3500应叫，大忙2400 All In,这样我们有了主锅9000，边锅2200。翻牌是As-Qh-5d,Mizzi叫牌5800， 我应叫。转牌是K，Mizzi过牌，我叫牌7500（从我的22000筹码中）左右，Mizzi应叫。河牌是10 (A-Q-5-K-10），Mizzi叫牌10000，我应叫。Mizzi翻出K-J以大顺子赢了这锅，我亮出自己的5-5。当我的牌亮出落在桌上时，周围寂静到你可以听到一根针落在地上的声音。桌上的人都不动了，因为那是扑克坏小子（the Poker Brat）要离开的时间了！桌上的每个人都看过这样的情景，并且你--读者--也看过：在ESPN上! 只是这一次，我付出筹码，什么也没说。两手牌后，我以手中Qs-Js,和最后的5400筹码All In,Baldwin以手中As-Ks应叫，比赛结束了。

让我们仔细来看看这手牌。Mizzi在枪口下以K-J开叫3500没什么问题，特别是对他的松凶打法而言。但是，我不会教一个初学者在枪口下用K-J加注叫牌。我在翻牌前手拿5-5的3500应叫也还可以。但是，我大概不会应叫一个5000的开叫。我很喜欢Mizzi在翻牌上的5800叫牌。事实上我们有第三个牌手在锅中，小一点的边锅使得Mizzi的叫牌显得更强一些。一般来说，在一个小的边锅中下注，说明下注者手中有货。我是说，为什么一个牌手没什么牌还要叫牌来保护一个已经All In的牌手？ 我也很喜欢自己的5800的平跟！ 我设想Mizzi是挺死牌了，或者是需要两张牌的挺牌（Runner-Runner)，我给Mizzi一个机会在转牌上用A-J,A-10,K-Q叫牌，或者就是在转牌上做个平凡老旧的诈唬。

在转牌上，Mizzi的过牌没有问题，我喜欢自己的7500叫牌。我设想应该只有10或者J可以让Mizzi成牌，并且如果Mizzi如果已经有了两对，他应该已立时All In了。我在一个23000的锅中叫牌7500， 希望得到一手弱牌的跟注。当然，有些牌手会说我应该叫的多于7500来保护我的牌。不管怎样，我在一件事上是正确的：Mizzi只有四张赢牌，那么说他就是10-1的落后（我有44张赢牌--他有4张赢牌）。

7500能让Mizzi弃牌吗？我猜Mizzi假设他可以再来一张K，一张J，或者一张10来赢这个锅，其实K,J都不会让他赢。而且或许他手中的牌就是最好的牌，对吧？我想我不能责怪Mizzi的7500跟注。不管怎样，我的确以弱牌的方式在打这手牌，并且我诱惑他入锅来。Mizzi在河牌上的 10000叫牌是完美的！如果他叫注我所有的筹码（15000左右），我会严肃地考虑弃牌。我会因为Mizzi在河牌的10000叫牌而弃牌吗？我不这么认为。我是说，Mizzi有可能只是有了两对，比如说对A,对10。 这就是一个Badbeat,直白而简单，至少我在失败中把自己把握的还不错！

真诚感谢dolphin一次又一次的无私奉献！

为自己未能及时更新主帖而惭愧。

“Hey sir, should I deal you in?”

My friend Jon Ferraro stopped by the “Potawatomi Bingo Casino” in Milwaukee on a Sunday in early December to play in their $3-$5 blind no limit Hold’em game.  This game features a minimum buy in of $200 and a maximum buy in of $600.  Ferraro bought in for $600, and after seven hours he had $2,200 in chips all racked up and ready to be cashed in.

Ferraro says, “At this point the dealer asked, ‘Sir, would like a hand on the button?’  I shook his head yes, and the dealer proceeded to deal me Q-Q.  Now I think to myself, ‘I played good poker (what I think is good poker) for 7 hours to get up $1,600 and now I’m going lose it all in this one hand, because for some reason I have a hard time folding QQ!  But I love to gamble, so it’s all good.’  I am in Seat 3.  Seat 6 makes it $25 to go.  He is called by seat 8.  Seat 1 makes it $130 straight.  Normally I raise here but this player has played extremely tight all day and has only reraised with A-A, A-K, or KK, so I smooth call and seat 6 and 8 come along for the ride.  The flop comes down Qs-Jd-7c...Nice flop!  Seat 6 checks, Seat 8 checks, and Seat 1 bets $200.  Now I definitely put him on A-A, or K-K, so I smooth call knowing he will continue to fire with not many outs.  Seat 6 only has $240 in chips, so he pushes all in and Seat 8 calls his last $180 in chips.  Seat 1 calls the extra $40, and then I call the extra $40.  At this point Seat 6 calls for a chip runner.”

Ferraro continues, “Again, Seat 6 and Seat 8 are both all in.  Meanwhile, Seat 1 has approx $1,700 in chips in front of him.  The turn card is the 8c (Qs-Jd-7c-8c), and now there is approx $1,400 in the pot.  I hear seat 6 tell the chip runner to hold on, which I don't like to hear, but I’m not overly concerned while figuring that maybe he caught a smaller set, or turned a flush draw.  Now Seat 1 fires out $300, and again I smooth call.  I decided to just call because the only way for me to make a huge profit is to get all of Seat 1's chips.  The river is a jack, and now Seat 1 fires out $400 (he has approx $1,000 behind).   At this point I instantly push my rack of chips into the middle of the pot, which I was planning to do no matter what came on the river.  Now Seat 1 thinks for 2-3 seconds, flips over 10s-9s for a made straight, and calls.  I announce, ‘Full boat’ while exposing my Q-Q.  Seat 6 now swears loudly and exposes his 10c-9h, and Seat 8 mucks.  I then proceed to grab seven more racks as I scoop up the 5k pot.  Not a bad finish to the day!  The funny thing is that when I was ahead in the hand (before the flop), I was sure that I was behind.  And as soon as I was behind (on the turn), I immediately thought I was ahead!”

I like the way Ferraro played his hand!  Personally, I would have been tempted to raise it up on the turn to protect my hand because now there were possible straight draws and flush draws, but Ferraro’s reasoning was good.

好久没有为城里做贡献了，上面这个我来翻吧。

BTW:向dolphin同学致敬。

hi phil, i saw you in the celebrity apprentice season 8, you r so generous at charity party, but annie still lost in the end, could u tell me why bxxxx joan rivers won?