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本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2018-1-15 20:35 编辑
发几手有趣的牌,关于波动.
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 157.52 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 363.16 BB (VPIP: 20.29, PFR: 14.78, 3Bet Preflop: 8.50, Hands: 1,066)
Hero (BB): 355.52 BB
UTG: 46.6 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
MP: 159.84 BB (VPIP: 21.78, PFR: 16.16, 3Bet Preflop: 4.11, Hands: 1,282)
CO: 137.8 BB (VPIP: 27.75, PFR: 23.56, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 197)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 T
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8 J 5
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB
Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 37.92 BB, SB calls 25.92 BB
River: (91.84 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks
SB shows 6 3 (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 38%, Flop 23%, Turn 34%)
Hero shows 9 T (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 62%, Flop 77%, Turn 66%)
Hero wins 87.72 BB
V是个韩国棒子, 河牌非常恶心, 使得我代表的55,A5o,88少了很多, 只剩下8J,A8之类的不支持overbet的牌,如果下注少了基本V任何Ax都不会弃, 反复斟酌后我放弃了诈唬,没想到Thigh收锅. 棒子在转牌有那么多更好的LINE可以打, 他选择了最差的一条.所以他这手是实实在在地输了,和波动无关.
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 129.32 BB (VPIP: 19.66, PFR: 17.98, 3Bet Preflop: 14.71, Hands: 182)
SB: 418.4 BB (VPIP: 20.28, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.74, Hands: 1,230)
BB: 201.44 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG: 79.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
Hero (MP): 119.32 BB
CO: 185.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.88, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 204)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A 6
fold, Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.72 BB
Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) A A 8
SB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB
Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 27 BB, Hero calls 27 BB
River: (95 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 90.72 BB, Hero calls 72.32 BB and is all-in
SB shows 5 7 (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 41%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A 6 (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 59%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 231.64 BB
另一桌还是这个棒子.韩国人的风格,你示弱他就狠命锤.
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 18.78, PFR: 12.94, 3Bet Preflop: 2.76, Hands: 406)
SB: 183.2 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BB: 107.32 BB (VPIP: 22.89, PFR: 16.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.34, Hands: 1,040)
UTG: 372.24 BB (VPIP: 22.52, PFR: 16.99, 3Bet Preflop: 10.57, Hands: 690)
Hero (MP): 207.4 BB
CO: 133.96 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q
fold, Hero raises to 2.68 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 12.8 BB, Hero calls 10.12 BB
Flop: (26 BB, 2 players) 7 J 6
BB bets 12.4 BB, Hero calls 12.4 BB
Turn: (50.8 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (50.8 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 28.56 BB, Hero calls 28.56 BB
BB shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 46%, Flop 27%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows Q Q (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 54%, Flop 73%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 103.08 BB
canadian
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 84.92 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (SB): 113.28 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 16.93, 3Bet Preflop: 14.08, Hands: 194)
UTG: 156.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 6)
MP: 247.76 BB (VPIP: 21.84, PFR: 16.26, 3Bet Preflop: 3.93, Hands: 1,477)
CO: 150.24 BB (VPIP: 23.96, PFR: 15.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.71, Hands: 219)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, UTG calls 8 BB
Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) 8 A Q
Hero bets 9 BB, UTG calls 9 BB
Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 20 BB, UTG calls 20 BB
River: (81 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 73.28 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 73.28 BB
Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
(Pre 69%, Flop 90%, Turn 97%)
UTG shows A 7 (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
(Pre 31%, Flop 10%, Turn 3%)
Hero wins 219.56 BB
Greek.
在过去长达一年的时间中, Allin EV的波动一直处在不利于的一边,偏离非常大, 对此我无能为力. 要提高我的游戏水平, 只能尽力分析ALLIN EV之外的波动, 以期正确认知技术水平,建立信心.
上面这几手牌, 没有在转牌前全进,不存在allin ev的波动, 但波动仍然是存在的. 今天波动站在我这一边, 这几手全赢了. 换一天同样的打法,对手不是36s,是AX. 对手不是空气是AK, 对手不是AcKc而是AsKx. 对手不是A7s而是A8AQ. 我这几手全输了(这是非常可能且经常发生的.)
今天全赢,明天全输, 表面EV为0.
有人有雄心壮志, 说要消灭波动, 这些情况全部弃牌,EV是0,不就0波动了吗,还省抽水钱. 这当然是非常错误的理念. 无数个明天之后,这些LINE的真实EV会拨开波动的迷雾,那个就是真实的盈率.
有人说要控制波动,有人会一刀切地告诉你TPTK不要打进全部身家, 要控池. 最后AK这手为例, 如果在河牌check控池,那不论这一手结果如何,你输钱了(损失EV).也就是说不是赢或输在波动,而是真切的输了,是技术问题. 因为这里最大EV的动作是全进而不是check.
如果一手牌下主100BB是Max EV,最后输了.这个是波动,EV不会减少. 然而你只下注80BB,最后输了,是波动同时也是错误(20BB的永久性损失,永远不会还回来). 如果因为少输了20BB而沾沾自喜,错误就会永远存在下去.
5万手,10万手的输赢数据,偏离数据根本不值得大惊小怪. 真正关切的应该是拨开波动定位真实技术水平的能力. 任何非波动性的错误,立刻马上现在就改.
这是最近复盘学习的一点心得. 接受甚至欢迎波动在改善心态上起到了很好的作用.
波动可以坏到连续10次同样的场景都输,第11次时改变了打法,这时候真正可怕的下风来了,因为波动+错误就像龙卷风席卷一切,摧毁信心和bankroll.只有无所畏惧的心态才能坚持正确的打法. 前提是要正确认识波动,接受波动. 不要在下风期改变打法. 不管是输40,60,80个买入.
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