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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 127.32 BB
SB: 243.2 BB (VPIP: 23.91, PFR: 17.20, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 705)
BB: 118.8 BB (VPIP: 27.46, PFR: 21.19, 3Bet Preflop: 15.45, Hands: 347)
UTG: 88.72 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 112.08 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 91.8 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A Q

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (17.4 BB, 2 players)  3 2 T
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players)  4
UTG checks, Hero bets 18 BB, UTG calls 18 BB

River: (53.4 BB, 2 players)  8
UTG checks, Hero bets 101.32 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62.72 BB and is all-in

Hero shows  A Q  (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 59%, Flop 25%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows  6 5  (Straight Flush, Six High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 75%, Turn 100%)
UTG wins 170.84 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 208.88 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 36)
SB: 65 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 57.52 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 222.36 BB (VPIP: 39.13, PFR: 34.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 6.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
Hero (CO): 157.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  4 4

fold, MP raises to 2.48 BB, Hero calls 2.48 BB, BTN calls 2.48 BB, SB calls 2.08 BB, fold

Flop: (10.92 BB, 4 players)  5 4 9
SB checks, MP bets 6.88 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 17.12 BB

Turn: (58.92 BB, 2 players)  K
MP checks, Hero checks

River: (58.92 BB, 2 players)  A
MP bets 13.76 BB, Hero calls 13.76 BB

MP shows  9 9  (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 82%, Flop 93%, Turn 88%)
Hero mucks  4 4  (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 13%)
MP wins 82.56 BB


这两手牌我很幸运, 对手是短码.   尤其第一手如果是深码的话不敢想.   这个星期在NL25Z发现了一个了不得的对手.  他开4桌, 连续一周每桌基本上是200刀左右,今天更加逆天, 最少的一桌168刀,最多的一桌688刀.    如果不是亲眼所见,我真的不相信有人能打出这个成绩.  

我和他直接交手不到100手, 并没有感觉特别难缠, 他的打法漏洞还是很明显的,为什么在NL25Z这么有效?

总结一下他的特点:
1:特别紧,  VPIP18. 这在reg里很少见,通常很少见到低于20的.
2:preflop 3bet 和4bet 都超过10.
3:极少平跟别人的OPEN.

他翻牌后也有一些明显的倾向,容易被利用.比如IP翻牌和转牌连续中等以上大小的下注,通常是在听牌.   我会利用这个漏洞去对抗他.比如这手:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 88.72 BB (VPIP: 19.94, PFR: 12.72, 3Bet Preflop: 6.12, Hands: 356)
SB: 185.96 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (BB): 104.2 BB
UTG: 196.72 BB (VPIP: 14.12, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 178)
MP: 81.04 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 414.88 BB (VPIP: 16.41, PFR: 13.28, 3Bet Preflop: 14.04, Hands: 132)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (8.4 BB, 2 players)  A 6 3
Hero checks, CO bets 7.4 BB, Hero calls 7.4 BB

Turn: (23.2 BB, 2 players)  T
Hero checks, CO bets 13.72 BB, Hero raises to 39 BB, CO calls 25.28 BB

River: (101.2 BB, 2 players)  J
Hero bets 53.8 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 96.64 BB


在河牌他很少诈唬

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 337.44 BB (VPIP: 20.56, PFR: 17.58, 3Bet Preflop: 17.50, Hands: 617)
SB: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
BB: 290.96 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 14.10, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 80)
UTG: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 19.70, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 136)
Hero (MP): 251.92 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.56, PFR: 17.37, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 168)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  J K

fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9.68 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.2 BB

Flop: (20.76 BB, 2 players)  J A A
Hero checks, BTN bets 18.24 BB, Hero calls 18.24 BB

Turn: (57.24 BB, 2 players)  A
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (57.24 BB, 2 players)  Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 27.36 BB, Hero calls 27.36 BB

BTN shows  T Q  (Full House, Aces full of Queens)
(Pre 35%, Flop 24%, Turn 9%)
Hero mucks  J K  (Full House, Aces full of Jacks)
(Pre 65%, Flop 76%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 106.92 BB




在3bet,4bet的pot里,不管有没有位置,总是check坚果.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 261.4 BB
SB: 185.92 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 7.32, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 45)
BB: 93.16 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 20 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 1216 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 16.71, 3Bet Preflop: 16.36, Hands: 715)
CO: 275.2 BB (VPIP: 19.10, PFR: 14.61, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 93)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  4 6

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 7.2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 15.8 BB

Flop: (48.4 BB, 2 players)  4 Q 2
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (48.4 BB, 2 players)  5
MP checks, Hero checks

River: (48.4 BB, 2 players)  8
MP checks, Hero checks

MP shows  Q Q  (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 79%, Flop 98%, Turn 91%)
Hero mucks  4 6  (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 21%, Flop 2%, Turn 9%)
MP wins 46.24 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 168.68 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 585.76 BB (VPIP: 20.36, PFR: 17.18, 3Bet Preflop: 15.91, Hands: 803)
BB: 267.52 BB (VPIP: 20.08, PFR: 17.15, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 242)
Hero (UTG): 109.52 BB
MP: 103.68 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 122.2 BB (VPIP: 12.27, PFR: 7.36, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 171)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  K K

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 11.72 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.72 BB

Flop: (24.44 BB, 2 players)  Q 5 A
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (24.44 BB, 2 players)  2
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (24.44 BB, 2 players)  6
SB bets 11.68 BB, Hero calls 11.68 BB

SB shows  A A  (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks  K K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 45.64 BB


偶尔会在UTG LIMP AK.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 66.96 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)
SB: 79.52 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (BB): 245.64 BB
UTG: 688 BB (VPIP: 20.08, PFR: 16.83, 3Bet Preflop: 16.25, Hands: 722)
MP: 285.72 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 18.04, 3Bet Preflop: 6.64, Hands: 610)
CO: 79.92 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  7 Q

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.4 BB, 2 players)  A Q 7
Hero checks, UTG bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (4.4 BB, 2 players)  2
Hero checks, UTG bets 5.12 BB, Hero calls 5.12 BB

River: (14.64 BB, 2 players)  K
Hero checks, UTG bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

UTG shows  A K  (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 68%, Flop 27%, Turn 18%)
Hero mucks  7 Q  (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 32%, Flop 73%, Turn 82%)
UTG wins 27.36 BB




河牌会利用惊悚牌偶尔做一些诈唬.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 798.28 BB (VPIP: 19.68, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 320)
SB: 120.52 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 37)
BB: 76.56 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 103.96 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 153.4 BB (VPIP: 42.59, PFR: 25.93, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
Hero (CO): 350.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  T T

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, BTN raises to 9.68 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.2 BB

Flop: (20.76 BB, 2 players)  T 7 5
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (20.76 BB, 2 players)  4
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

River: (40.76 BB, 2 players)  A
Hero checks, BTN bets 19.48 BB, Hero raises to 78 BB, fold

Hero wins 76.12 BB


除此之外,没有特别出奇之处.   真不知道他是怎么打出这么好的成绩, 我反正是打不出来.    好好研究下他的牌局.

他的ID"di rossi81".  打这个级别的兄弟可以关注下,或者发一下和他交手的经验.

这个人我印象…因为他的open size非常大，现在几乎见不到4BBopen的人了，耳他几乎总是4BB open

BBlifego 发表于 2017-12-30 12:42
这个人我印象…因为他的open size非常大，现在几乎见不到4BBopen的人了，耳他几乎总是4BB open ...

嗯，我总结他的策略是“act loose，play tight” 翻后看上去很松凶实际很有章法。 4BB open 拉仇恨， 很多3bet 浇油， 一旦有人想当然地针对他就上当了。   

特别加拿大，南美，希腊ID的那些人，都是属炮仗的，一点就着。     

这个荷兰人进步非常大，印象中年初在nl25常规中交过手，当时鱼得很， 我给他标了鱼。 没想到现在打这么好

傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-12-30 13:45
嗯，我总结他的策略是“act loose，play tight” 翻后看上去很松凶实际很有章法。 4BB open 拉仇恨， 很 ...

节后回家看下hud，跟他同桌次数也不少，除了翻前的size没有特别的印象了…回去看看手牌再来讨论

BBlifego 发表于 2017-12-30 15:59
节后回家看下hud，跟他同桌次数也不少，除了翻前的size没有特别的印象了…回去看看手牌再来讨论 ...

持续观察这个人之中, 又增加了一些信息.   他在UTG LIMP AJ+
他有时会open 2bb---绝大多数是口袋对子.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 286.24 BB
SB: 68.96 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 65)
UTG: 490.92 BB (VPIP: 19.61, PFR: 16.26, 3Bet Preflop: 15.54, Hands: 1,652)
MP: 183.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 127.92 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 20.95, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 107)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  T J

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, BB checks

Flop: (3.4 BB, 3 players)  T K 8
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (3.4 BB, 3 players)  Q
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (3.4 BB, 3 players)  7
BB checks, UTG bets 489.92 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

UTG wins 3.24 BB


(深筹码时)他下注接近满池绝大多数时候是诈唬(这点持续得到验证)

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 307.68 BB (VPIP: 23.13, PFR: 17.79, 3Bet Preflop: 10.09, Hands: 288)
SB: 214.36 BB (VPIP: 20.53, PFR: 17.06, 3Bet Preflop: 16.08, Hands: 1,390)
Hero (BB): 121.68 BB
UTG: 97.68 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 121)
CO: 207.72 BB (VPIP: 35.56, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 97)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A 5

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players)  5 7 Q
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: (12 BB, 4 players)  8
SB bets 10.64 BB, Hero raises to 32.24 BB, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins 31.8 BB


标准码时我觉得他的连续大注很少是诈唬.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.61, PFR: 19.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.40, Hands: 700)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.52, PFR: 16.92, 3Bet Preflop: 15.59, Hands: 1,512)
Hero (BB): 409.52 BB
UTG: 113.64 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP: 186.84 BB (VPIP: 19.92, PFR: 16.10, 3Bet Preflop: 6.29, Hands: 482)
CO: 101.36 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 9

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, SB raises to 7.8 BB, Hero calls 6.8 BB, CO calls 5.8 BB

Flop: (23.4 BB, 3 players)  6 7 3
SB bets 20.56 BB, Hero calls 20.56 BB, fold

Turn: (64.52 BB, 2 players)  5
SB bets 57 BB, fold

SB wins 61.6 BB


基于这些信息,我和他打了一手看起来非常鱼的牌

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121.96 BB (VPIP: 24.71, PFR: 18.39, 3Bet Preflop: 9.46, Hands: 361)
SB: 215.76 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 16.96, 3Bet Preflop: 15.86, Hands: 1,410)
Hero (BB): 277.92 BB
UTG: 263.4 BB (VPIP: 19.66, PFR: 11.97, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 120)
MP: 156.72 BB (VPIP: 32.53, PFR: 15.66, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 86)
CO: 331.92 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  6 6

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 7.8 BB, Hero calls 6.8 BB, fold

Flop: (17.6 BB, 2 players)  7 Q 9
SB bets 15.44 BB, Hero calls 15.44 BB

Turn: (48.48 BB, 2 players)  5
SB bets 5.56 BB, Hero calls 5.56 BB

River: (59.6 BB, 2 players)  6
SB bets 51.24 BB, Hero raises to 105 BB, fold

Hero wins 154.8 BB


我在翻牌前用中小口袋对cold call 3bet是从来不做的事,不要被这2手牌误导.    实在对这个人太好奇了,总想找机会跟他打打翻后.但是他总是尽量避开对抗regs.   

翻牌,我会弃给1/3-2/5之间尺寸的cbet, 然而他下注满池,没有理由弃给他.  

转牌, 如果他继续满池,我就全进.   然后他下注1/10, 我到现在也没想明白,这是什么意思.    总之这里看起来跟注更+EV.

河牌,他下注接近满池, 这么飘忽的line我认为几乎总是诈唬, 这个6不是很好,也不差, 反正来不来6或8,都是一样的raise.  


我的总结是,他有一套非常实用的打鱼技巧.这套打法的漏洞是很大的,对付regs不顶用,所以他总要避开这些人,专门找一些跟得松和打得弱的.

Donk是一项很有用但是很难的技术.
最近微级别DONK横行, 99.5%都是weak players.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 116.72 BB
SB: 135.36 BB (VPIP: 21.28, PFR: 13.48, 3Bet Preflop: 10.29, Hands: 144)
BB: 532.48 BB (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG: 94.2 BB (VPIP: 19.15, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
MP: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 219.32 BB (VPIP: 17.35, PFR: 16.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 223)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, BB calls 1.28 BB

Flop: (4.96 BB, 2 players)  J K 3
BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (12.96 BB, 2 players)  Q
BB checks, Hero bets 13 BB, BB calls 13 BB

River: (38.96 BB, 2 players)  7
BB checks, Hero bets 37.2 BB, BB calls 37.2 BB

Hero shows  A K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 77%, Flop 88%, Turn 93%)
BB mucks  K 9  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 23%, Flop 12%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 108.24 BB

总是donk 顶对弱踢还有中对的则100%是鱼.  哪怕把NUTS也放进去,  整体范围还是太弱,常常会卷入一个牌力,支撑不起的大锅. 但有时候击中踢角也能赢个大的,所以会加深DONK 顶对是好打法这种印象.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 30.16 BB (VPIP: 45.61, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 58)
SB: 144.4 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 71.44 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (UTG): 227.76 BB
MP: 197.76 BB (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 60)
CO: 197.28 BB (VPIP: 12.82, PFR: 8.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 120)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A A

Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, CO calls 2.28 BB, fold, SB calls 1.88 BB, fold

Flop: (7.84 BB, 3 players)  8 5 9
SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, fold

Turn: (15.84 BB, 2 players)  5
SB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (33.84 BB, 2 players)  4
SB checks, Hero bets 49 BB, SB raises to 129.12 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 80.12 BB

SB shows  9 K  (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)
(Pre 13%, Flop 19%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows  A A  (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 87%, Flop 81%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 284.08 BB

这手Villain 河牌的strong move让我稍微有点为难,我输的牌和赢的牌都很多,如果是NL100, 这里只能弃牌.      

我想了不一会,决定跟注.  其中一个很重要的原因是对方ID是中国的,此前从没见过.   在PS包括我自己在内,98%+的中国ID都是鱼, 在NL25我不认为他具有通过3条街的行动得出我的准确范围,或许他认为我call,call,overbet看起来太像诈唬, 所以要操作回来.   

当然这一切的缘起都是DONK,  一旦donk太多了, 范围基本就变成透明的,容易被剥削.

傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-5 22:55
持续观察这个人之中, 又增加了一些信息.   他在UTG LIMP AJ+
他有时会open 2bb---绝大多数是口袋对子.

我hud里有他600多手牌，可能样本比较小，他总体输两个买入，特点跟你之前说的差不多，3bet非常多，cold call很少很少，几乎没有，这有一手他最近打的牌，overplay一个顶对。打光200BB：
PokerStars Zoom Hand #180532437637:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2018/01/04 23:48:17 ET
Table 'Hydra' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Di Rossi81 ($189.05 in chips)
Seat 2: superuva ($51.87 in chips)
Seat 3: ayhshhh ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: BBlifego ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: JJTKGB ($69.73 in chips)
Seat 6: slicknewf666 ($32.66 in chips)
superuva: posts small blind $0.10
ayhshhh: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BBlifego [Jd 5c]
BBlifego: folds
JJTKGB: raises $1 to $1.25
slicknewf666: folds
Di Rossi81: calls $1.25
superuva: folds
ayhshhh: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 6d 2h]
JJTKGB: bets $1.50
Di Rossi81: raises $3.36 to $4.86
JJTKGB: calls $3.36
*** TURN *** [Th 6d 2h] [Qh]
JJTKGB: checks
Di Rossi81: bets $7.44
JJTKGB: raises $9.56 to $17
Di Rossi81: calls $9.56
*** RIVER *** [Th 6d 2h Qh] [7d]
JJTKGB: bets $24.25
Di Rossi81: calls $24.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JJTKGB: shows [Ah Jh] (a flush, Ace high)
Di Rossi81: mucks hand
JJTKGB collected $93.07 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $95.07 | Rake $2
Board [Th 6d 2h Qh 7d]
Seat 1: Di Rossi81 (button) mucked [Kh Qd]
Seat 2: superuva (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ayhshhh (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: BBlifego folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JJTKGB showed [Ah Jh] and won ($93.07) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: slicknewf666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

3bet的底池会用一些有blocker但是没什么equity的牌非常凶的三枪bluff：

PokerStars Zoom Hand #180532718338:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2018/01/05 0:06:15 ET
Table 'Hydra' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sergei1861 ($51.23 in chips)
Seat 2: Di Rossi81 ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: koroto2 ($25.32 in chips)
Seat 4: ReKeTuR ($8.01 in chips)
Seat 5: chengyuqi ($26.58 in chips)
Seat 6: BBlifego ($25.31 in chips)
Di Rossi81: posts small blind $0.10
koroto2: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BBlifego [Qs 6h]
ReKeTuR: raises $0.37 to $0.62
chengyuqi: folds
BBlifego: folds
sergei1861: calls $0.62
Di Rossi81: raises $2.30 to $2.92
koroto2: folds
ReKeTuR: folds
sergei1861: calls $2.30
*** FLOP *** [Kh 8c 5c]
Di Rossi81: bets $5.90
sergei1861: calls $5.90
*** TURN *** [Kh 8c 5c] [9s]
Di Rossi81: bets $16.18 and is all-in
sergei1861: calls $16.18
*** RIVER *** [Kh 8c 5c 9s] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Di Rossi81: shows [As Qc] (high card Ace)
sergei1861: shows [Kd Js] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
sergei1861 collected $48.87 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.87 | Rake $2
Board [Kh 8c 5c 9s Jc]
Seat 1: sergei1861 (button) showed [Kd Js] and won ($48.87) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 2: Di Rossi81 (small blind) showed [As Qc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: koroto2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ReKeTuR folded before Flop
Seat 5: chengyuqi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BBlifego folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Zoom Hand #180018296776:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2017/12/25 7:44:53 ET
Table 'Hydra' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: HighRaider ($26.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Di Rossi81 ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 3: BBlifego ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 4: laoboy1119 ($101.99 in chips)
Seat 5: Mewars ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 6: jair minero ($30.21 in chips)
Di Rossi81: posts small blind $0.10
BBlifego: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BBlifego [Jd 8d]
laoboy1119: raises $0.31 to $0.56
Mewars: folds
jair minero: folds
HighRaider: calls $0.56
Di Rossi81: raises $1.92 to $2.48
BBlifego: folds
laoboy1119: folds
HighRaider: calls $1.92
*** FLOP *** [5h Td 3h]
Di Rossi81: bets $2.15
HighRaider: calls $2.15
*** TURN *** [5h Td 3h] [Kd]
Di Rossi81: bets $5.96
HighRaider: calls $5.96
*** RIVER *** [5h Td 3h Kd] [4d]
Di Rossi81: bets $15.66 and is all-in
HighRaider: calls $15.61 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.05) returned to Di Rossi81
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Di Rossi81: shows [As Qs] (high card Ace)
HighRaider: shows [Ah Ks] (a pair of Kings)
HighRaider collected $51.21 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $53.21 | Rake $2
Board [5h Td 3h Kd 4d]
Seat 1: HighRaider (button) showed [Ah Ks] and won ($51.21) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: Di Rossi81 (small blind) showed [As Qs] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: BBlifego (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: laoboy1119 folded before Flop
Seat 5: Mewars folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jair minero folded before Flop (didn't bet)

关于翻牌前的open size，最近sauce123放出了一个NL50的视频，里面提到基于低级别很高的抽水，他翻牌前 open size会偏大（3BB），整体会玩的比较紧（KQo UTG直接丢掉），然后OOP 3bet的size巨大，接近5X。这么看这人的4BB open也略有道理..

BBlifego 发表于 2018-1-6 22:45
我hud里有他600多手牌，可能样本比较小，他总体输两个买入，特点跟你之前说的差不多，3bet非常多，cold c ...

今晚失眠,  零点30分起来撸一个session,这家伙也在,  也就是说他一天大概可能打16-18小时.  他筹码累积这么高,跟打的时间也有关系.


题外话,凌晨的NL25简直弱得不像话,我在SB3bet AKs, BB Q2s cold call,,我在UTG open AA, BB defend23s,还有的在AT3r的3bet pot, raise我的cbet并且跟注我的3bet with JQo(spr1),都是这种鱼,  打得好爽. 可惜时差问题,平常无福消受.  看到好几个中国ID这个点在淘金.   

傻傻的鱼 发表于 2018-1-5 23:28
Donk是一项很有用但是很难的技术.
最近微级别DONK横行, 99.5%都是weak players.

这里河牌over bet是什么考虑？