三脚架 xx圈 online 日记

Ander_AK 发表于 2017-10-29 02:12
你对all in ev的理解是错误的。
你可以把all in ev理解为一个不能自由存取的银行，2万pot被9%小概率bb， ...

这个运气理解学习啦。。。之前想自己全下基本都是领先的，多数是被BB，后来就想通啦，每一次的中牌，每一次的手牌AA 都是运气的一种形式，只要上桌，运气总是一个平衡状态。

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我们从头来算range 看看这个娱乐玩家在flop x-r的range是什么
vpip 31%=414 combos A9o+, 98o+, K2s+.43s 53s 96s+ Q8spfr 8%=A8s+, KJs, QJs, AJo+, limp-r range全部紧缩range.
剩余306 combos

vs 常规iso 对手会defend 67%=205 combos, vs Hero 这样的8bb oop iso,  估计会defend 50%
=150 combos 88-, 43s-JTs, 64s-QTs, J8s, Q8s K8s
Flop=Th5h4d, 剩余131 combos
flop xr range=10%=13 combos

这里假设我们是AcAd
对手flop x-r range=120*0.1=12 combos.
55 44, 54s=8 combos, A4hh 64hh=2 combos, 76hh, 78hh=2 combos,
这个x-r range VS AA=73.6 : 26.4.
所以得出5%=100% set+, 6% flop x-r=set, 2p+ (no any FD), 10%=combo draw+.

AA vs 这个range=fold 100%=optimal play.

回头看river easy fold..88 87 2, A8 好多。赢什么？没炸糊的

PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

2668240085 (UTG+1): 142.1 BB (VPIP: 28.28, PFR: 8.23, 3Bet Preflop: 1.44, Hands: 391)
Hero (MP): 204.9 BB
4235677584 (MP+1): 71.8 BB (VPIP: 19.29, PFR: 12.16, 3Bet Preflop: 6.21, Hands: 483)
370274306 (CO): 135.3 BB (VPIP: 42.96, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 1.72, Hands: 136)
248162732 (BTN): 205 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 90)
1804113266 (SB): 71.2 BB (VPIP: 49.48, PFR: 8.25, 3Bet Preflop: 1.85, Hands: 296)
443021796 (BB): 337.9 BB (VPIP: 28.23, PFR: 9.57, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 210)
51844601 (UTG): 246 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.80, Hands: 766)

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, 1804113266 posts SB 0.5 BB, 443021796 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  7 7

fold, 2668240085 raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, 370274306 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (12.1 BB, 3 players)  8 7 A
2668240085 bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB, 370274306 raises to 16 BB, fold, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (50.1 BB, 2 players)  8
Hero checks, 370274306 bets 33.4 BB, Hero calls 33.4 BB

River: (116.9 BB, 2 players)  Q
Hero checks, 370274306 bets 82.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 82.7 BB

Hero shows  7 7  (Full House, Sevens full of Eights)
(Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
370274306 shows  8 8  (Four of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
370274306 wins 282.3 BB

co vpip 45 vpip 14
82s+, A4o+, 43s+, 53s+.T9o-K9o+.15% pfr=77+AT+. A7s+, K9s+ KJo QJo, QTs JTs
limp call 77% =410*.71=290 combos
JJ blocker+ flop=Ts8c7s=239 combos.
flop x-r=9%=20 combos.
这里对手有足够的nuts,
2p=J9s, T8s, T7s, 87s (9),
K8ss Q8ss, J8ss, 98ss, 86ss, 85ss, Q9ss, T9s 97s=16.
65ss,

JJ vs 这个range=44.2 vs 55.8, but 这tm是mini-r, 潮湿面, 对手wsdwrf 够低, 我觉得看turn/jam flop都可以, 毕竟我们有足够多的set还挡掉了了天顺.
当然对手never不会有82s. 娱乐玩家 服了

vs 常规range 能call call一枪. call不了flop直接丢. x 也没问题


PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

4182069275 (BTN): 200.2 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (SB): 98.6 BB
3379607099 (BB): 99.8 BB (VPIP: 46.29, PFR: 13.12, 3Bet Preflop: 3.93, Hands: 410)
1108590774 (UTG): 104.6 BB (VPIP: 25.68, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
2252616643 (MP): 99.7 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 33)
95311544 (CO): 97.5 BB (VPIP: 35.77, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 1,447)

6 players post ante of 0.2 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, 3379607099 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has  J J

fold, fold, 95311544 calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, 95311544 calls 4 BB

Flop: (12.2 BB, 2 players)  T 8 7
Hero bets 9.1 BB, 95311544 raises to 21 BB, Hero calls 11.9 BB

Turn: (54.2 BB, 2 players)  2
Hero checks, 95311544 bets 71.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 71.3 BB

River: (196.8 BB, 2 players)  3

Hero shows  J J  (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 84%, Flop 83%, Turn 27%)
95311544 shows  8 2  (Two Pair, Eights and Twos)
(Pre 16%, Flop 17%, Turn 73%)
95311544 wins 196.8 BB

这个牌turn call>jam吧 虽然river一样被大光
但是对手xr 仍然是真实的牌力 我是不知道对手会limp call很多9x

PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

1550554981 (UTG+1): 76.6 BB (VPIP: 23.44, PFR: 5.07, 3Bet Preflop: 2.19, Hands: 694)
1843338874 (MP): 66.7 BB (VPIP: 36.43, PFR: 11.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.91, Hands: 1,044)
963573106 (CO): 141.8 BB (VPIP: 35.26, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 3.05, Hands: 313)
2756507489 (BTN): 111.4 BB (VPIP: 38.98, PFR: 9.58, 3Bet Preflop: 2.75, Hands: 453)
Hero (SB): 95.8 BB
1518047244 (BB): 170.9 BB (VPIP: 33.41, PFR: 19.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 437)
3212579309 (UTG): 139.9 BB (VPIP: 19.76, PFR: 14.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.29, Hands: 498)

7 players post ante of 0.2 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, 1518047244 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.9 BB) Hero has  K A

fold, fold, fold, fold, 2756507489 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5.5 BB, fold, 2756507489 calls 4.5 BB

Flop: (13.4 BB, 2 players)  9 9 A
Hero bets 9.5 BB, 2756507489 calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (32.4 BB, 2 players)  K
Hero bets 17 BB, 2756507489 raises to 34 BB, Hero raises to 80.6 BB and is all-in, 2756507489 calls 46.6 BB

River: (193.6 BB, 2 players)  8

Hero shows  K A  (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 66%, Flop 9%, Turn 9%)
2756507489 shows  9 8  (Full House, Nines full of Eights)
(Pre 34%, Flop 91%, Turn 91%)
2756507489 wins 193.6 BB

简单来说还是自己打的不好吧
对于这种limpping range 25%-30, limp call 60的娱乐玩家, 我的iso size可以更大, 尤其在oop, 锤到8bb左右都可, 隔离出一个单挑, 对手range极度紧缩的底池.
翻后则当对手展现激进的时候放弃自己抓咋牌即可.
对手总的来说有1/5的概率在flop领先鱼one pair, 4/5输钱. 还有可能被我们cooler.
对付这种娱乐玩家, cb 1/3 可能也不是那么有效（强牌可以打光的可以1/3勾引）
或者就是oop x flop 100% 尝试把pot 控制在能call down范围之内.
切不要给对手足够的隐含.  

PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

1994474221 (UTG): 101.3 BB (VPIP: 42.81, PFR: 1.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 280)
3066782264 (UTG+1): 109.2 BB (VPIP: 27.43, PFR: 9.49, 3Bet Preflop: 1.03, Hands: 478)
Hero (MP): 108.3 BB
3064156798 (MP+1): 444.4 BB (VPIP: 19.61, PFR: 13.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.96, Hands: 569)
2138584184 (CO): 164.8 BB (VPIP: 35.47, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 650)
2572624523 (BTN): 137.8 BB (VPIP: 28.63, PFR: 11.95, 3Bet Preflop: 3.41, Hands: 977)
706025548 (SB): 279.4 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 7.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.25, Hands: 1,018)
128253673 (BB): 276 BB (VPIP: 27.01, PFR: 6.21, 3Bet Preflop: 3.47, Hands: 2,963)

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, 706025548 posts SB 0.5 BB, 128253673 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  A J

1994474221 calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, 1994474221 calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (12.1 BB, 2 players)  3 6 J
1994474221 checks, Hero bets 6 BB, 1994474221 calls 6 BB

Turn: (24.1 BB, 2 players)  4
1994474221 checks, Hero bets 24 BB, 1994474221 raises to 90.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 66.6 BB

River: (205.3 BB, 2 players)  9

1994474221 shows  5 7  (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 20%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows  A J  (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 59%, Flop 80%, Turn 0%)
1994474221 wins 205.3 BB