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191#
t36li 发表于 2018-3-30 21:51:35 | 只看该作者
三脚架 发表于 2018-1-25 01:33
简单来说, flop=ThTc4c,  
AI 建议100% cbet 1/2 pot. 对手跟注后, 在turn=5c的时候, 我们的整个preflop ra ...

这里LJ COLD CALL RANGE, 可能不会有 22-55, A4s, 理论上应该更窄。
可以尝试去掉这些再跑一些IP EXPLOITATIVE STRATEGY?


192#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-10 01:35:21 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 三脚架 于 2018-11-10 01:37 编辑

发下自己在圈打的输的pot。5/10(2)



PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 380.2 BB
SB: 74.2 BB (VPIP: 13.54, PFR: 9.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 365)
BB: 113.1 BB (VPIP: 19.68, PFR: 6.91, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 189)
UTG: 195.2 BB (VPIP: 32.28, PFR: 8.66, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 127)
UTG+1: 305.6 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 123)
MP: 313.1 BB (VPIP: 27.74, PFR: 12.26, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 156)
MP+1: 165 BB (VPIP: 42.33, PFR: 5.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 190)
CO: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 14.18, PFR: 9.93, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 141)

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  K K

UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 raises to 6.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 22.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 71.3 BB, Hero calls 48.9 BB

Flop: (146.7 BB, 2 players)  7 5 3
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (146.7 BB, 2 players)  8
UTG+1 bets 73.3 BB, Hero calls 73.3 BB

River: (293.3 BB, 2 players)  6
UTG+1 bets 160.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 160.8 BB

UTG+1 shows  A A  (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows  K K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
UTG+1 wins 614.9 BB
193#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-10 01:37:43 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 446.7 BB (VPIP: 22.54, PFR: 19.65, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 176)
SB: 234.7 BB (VPIP: 31.61, PFR: 13.22, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 176)
BB: 183.4 BB (VPIP: 24.86, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 173)
UTG: 188.9 BB (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 19.79, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 96)
Hero (UTG+1): 230.7 BB
MP: 461 BB (VPIP: 18.71, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 1.35, Hands: 172)
MP+1: 399.2 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 176)
CO: 398.1 BB (VPIP: 26.16, PFR: 12.79, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 172)

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  J J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 15.1 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 12.1 BB, MP+1 calls 12.1 BB

Flop: (48.4 BB, 3 players)  3 5 T
Hero checks, MP+1 checks, BTN bets 16.1 BB, Hero calls 16.1 BB, fold

Turn: (80.6 BB, 2 players)  7
Hero checks, BTN bets 53.7 BB, Hero calls 53.7 BB

River: (188 BB, 2 players)  T
Hero bets 145.6 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 145.6 BB

Hero shows  J J  (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows  A A  (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 479.2 BB
194#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-10 01:38:37 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 159.8 BB (VPIP: 17.70, PFR: 4.66, 3Bet Preflop: 4.72, Hands: 325)
BB: 389.6 BB (VPIP: 24.77, PFR: 15.77, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 226)
UTG: 56.8 BB (VPIP: 47.83, PFR: 2.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 92)
UTG+1: 185.1 BB (VPIP: 25.19, PFR: 13.70, 3Bet Preflop: 5.93, Hands: 272)
MP: 182.7 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 1.87, 3Bet Preflop: 0.75, Hands: 267)
MP+1: 190.2 BB (VPIP: 28.07, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 58)
CO: 113.3 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (BTN): 265.2 BB

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  K K

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.1 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 9.1 BB

Flop: (27.3 BB, 2 players)  5 5 2
MP+1 checks, Hero bets 27.3 BB, MP+1 calls 27.3 BB

Turn: (81.9 BB, 2 players)  J
MP+1 checks, Hero bets 27.3 BB, MP+1 raises to 118.3 BB, Hero raises to 225.6 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 32.3 BB and is all-in

River: (383.1 BB, 2 players)  6

MP+1 shows  6 4  (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 39%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows  K K  (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 80%, Flop 61%, Turn 23%)
MP+1 wins 383.1 BB
195#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-10 01:40:12 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 380.2 BB
SB: 74.2 BB (VPIP: 13.54, PFR: 9.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 365)
BB: 113.1 BB (VPIP: 19.68, PFR: 6.91, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 189)
UTG: 195.2 BB (VPIP: 32.28, PFR: 8.66, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 127)
UTG+1: 305.6 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 123)
MP: 313.1 BB (VPIP: 27.74, PFR: 12.26, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 156)
MP+1: 165 BB (VPIP: 42.33, PFR: 5.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 190)
CO: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 14.18, PFR: 9.93, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 141)

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  K K

UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 raises to 6.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 22.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 71.3 BB, Hero calls 48.9 BB

Flop: (146.7 BB, 2 players)  7 5 3
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (146.7 BB, 2 players)  8
UTG+1 bets 73.3 BB, Hero calls 73.3 BB

River: (293.3 BB, 2 players)  6
UTG+1 bets 160.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 160.8 BB

UTG+1 shows  A A  (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows  K K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
UTG+1 wins 614.9 BB
196#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-10 01:41:44 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 109.3 BB (VPIP: 31.51, PFR: 12.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
MP: 494.6 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 74)
MP+1: 337.3 BB (VPIP: 28.77, PFR: 10.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
CO: 157.5 BB (VPIP: 63.33, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 30)
BTN: 140.8 BB (VPIP: 31.08, PFR: 12.16, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
SB: 158.1 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 6.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
BB: 307 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 14.86, 3Bet Preflop: 14.71, Hands: 74)
Hero (UTG): 173.1 BB

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  A J

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (16.6 BB, 5 players)  J 6 A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP+1 bets 8.3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 8.3 BB

Turn: (33.2 BB, 2 players)  8
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 16.6 BB, Hero raises to 60.8 BB, MP+1 raises to 138.2 BB, Hero raises to 161.6 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 23.4 BB

River: (356.4 BB, 2 players)  2

Hero shows  A J  (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 46%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
MP+1 shows  6 6  (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 54%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
MP+1 wins 356.4 BB
197#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-10 01:42:28 | 只看该作者
PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 230.3 BB (VPIP: 26.37, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 93)
CO: 196.7 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 13.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 93)
BTN: 211.8 BB (VPIP: 31.11, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 90)
SB: 221 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (BB): 139.2 BB
UTG: 467.7 BB (VPIP: 17.98, PFR: 3.37, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 89)
UTG+1: 399.3 BB (VPIP: 17.20, PFR: 8.60, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 93)
MP: 376.7 BB (VPIP: 31.46, PFR: 16.85, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 89)

8 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.1 BB) Hero has  Q K

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 4 BB, fold, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (14.1 BB, 3 players)  T J 9
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 9.4 BB, BTN calls 9.4 BB, Hero raises to 36 BB, MP+1 calls 26.6 BB, fold

Turn: (95.5 BB, 2 players)  T
Hero bets 95.5 BB, MP+1 raises to 190.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 3.5 BB and is all-in

River: (293.5 BB, 2 players)  5

Hero shows  Q K  (Straight, King High)
(Pre 63%, Flop 78%, Turn 0%)
MP+1 shows  T J  (Full House, Tens full of Jacks)
(Pre 37%, Flop 22%, Turn 100%)
MP+1 wins 293.5 BB
198#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-11 04:24:41 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 三脚架 于 2018-11-11 04:31 编辑

PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 414.2 BB (VPIP: 30.70, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 117)
MP: 95 BB (VPIP: 27.59, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 10.81, Hands: 117)
CO: 200.7 BB (VPIP: 25.86, PFR: 7.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 116)
Hero (BTN): 167.7 BB
SB: 220.9 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 117)
BB: 160.5 BB (VPIP: 22.35, PFR: 10.61, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 271)

6 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has  A A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (7.7 BB, 2 players)  2 8 K
BB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, BB raises to 10.9 BB, Hero calls 8.4 BB

Turn: (29.5 BB, 2 players)  7
BB bets 19.6 BB, Hero raises to 65.4 BB, BB raises to 146.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 81 BB

River: (322.3 BB, 2 players)  4

BB shows  K A  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 12%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows  A A  (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 88%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)Hero wins 322.3 BB


我的个人总结就是不要尝试
1. 2bet bluff turn, 160BB 对手TPTK不会丢
2. 对手oop 4x-2bet的范围以价值为主, bottom range=TPGK
3. 有些傻逼会奇怪的玩翻前range.

PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 206.6 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
BB: 138.5 BB (VPIP: 46.43, PFR: 1.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)
UTG: 109 BB (VPIP: 41.03, PFR: 20.51, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 39)
UTG+1: 339.7 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 47)
Hero (MP): 156.6 BB
CO: 439 BB (VPIP: 33.90, PFR: 20.34, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 59)
BTN: 214.3 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 59)

7 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.9 BB) Hero has  A A

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, CO calls 9.6 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 8.6 BB, fold

Flop: (33.7 BB, 3 players)  9 8 K
BB checks, Hero bets 22.4 BB, CO calls 22.4 BB, fold

Turn: (78.5 BB, 2 players)  6
Hero checks, CO bets 52.3 BB, Hero calls 52.3 BB

River: (183.1 BB, 2 players)  T
Hero checks, CO bets 61 BB, Hero calls 61 BB

Hero shows  A A  (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 88%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
CO shows  K A  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 12%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 305.1 BB


199#
 楼主| 三脚架 发表于 2018-11-18 03:06:26 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 三脚架 于 2018-11-18 08:46 编辑

笔记
PFR 6%以下的选手会limp TT-,flop vs 1/3 基本会100% defend.PFR 6%的玩家几乎就是safe ABC, value heavy 趴活选手
limp-call, flop x-r的line 里几乎100%是set
limp-call, flop x-c的range都是capped range
这里就可以剥削:
不需要保护equity的, 强draw都可以1/3剥削, draw可以实现equity
需要保护equity的, weak draw 锤2/3 turn 看board
垃圾牌不要cb 1/3, 对手基本的limp call range基本 100% defend flop 1/3 cb.


翻前open 4bb, EGO 玩家会defend 几乎100% 4x 以下的3b,
ATs这样的牌对手几乎会100% defend


River
xc turn, river=blank, pot size以内, 大概率xc bluff catcher
心里有数的猴子bet bet, 当river card 发的不好的时候基本会放弃咋呼
能打出bbb或者x-2b-b的基本是value lineIP:
1. call, 2bet, c-bet river基本都是强力的value line, 多数猴子在river underbluff的, 选择call, 2bet, x-back give up line.
2. 2bet, xx, c-bet river pot size,
3. c, c, float bet big size

OOP 价值: 1. cbet-cbet-cbet/3bet pre, cb-cb-cb/cb 2/3 cb 2/3 cb 2/3
关键点就是river的bet, 有些人会把不应该极化的range打成极化. 所以你的bluff catcher vs 对手的cb river range就十分的弱.
有人flop turn cb air/semi-bluff, river一旦miss就放弃了, bet bet (hit) bet 确实难丢, 但是还是可以剥削丢.

相对的就是IP
1. flop float bet, cb turn cb river



2. x-r flop, cb turn, cb river
3. xc, xx, river probe pot size.


对手防御line:
c 2/3 c 2/3 c 2/3
cb, cb, xc.
cb, xx, c down (ip)
bet-call, xx, xc.

对手很少打出cb river for bluff的line
比如 bb-cb/c, float b-cb, xx, 2bet-cb, 几乎都是value
ip的c, xx, river float bet pot size也是value


xx-call turn probe-float river
因为对手underbluff, 所以不建议建立一个river-xr的range: xr-bluff 100%被抓, xr-for value 100% 没支付或者只能被对手nuts接住
所以建立一个1/3的blocking/value/bluff range比较好.
常见的87s high flush, 如果river击中且对手range cap没有很多flush, 一定要自己主动donk去拿价值, xc等对手去偷/犯over value的错误是无意义的

oop
x-r+cb+cb
xx-probe bet-cb 很多人turn probe bet river x with bluff catcher, 这种turn probe river bet big size的几乎都是value



PokerStars - $10 Ante $2 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 530.9 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.18, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 115)
MP: 325.1 BB (VPIP: 19.13, PFR: 16.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 115)
CO: 618.7 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 8.20, Hands: 115)
Hero (BTN): 290.3 BB
SB: 172.2 BB (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 115)
BB: 430.7 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 8.20, Hands: 149)
UTG: 68.5 BB (VPIP: 51.56, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 64)

7 players post ante of 0.2 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.9 BB) Hero has  9 A

fold, UTG+1 raises to 4 BB, fold, CO calls 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (14.9 BB, 3 players)  3 3 9
UTG+1 bets 9.9 BB, CO calls 9.9 BB, Hero calls 9.9 BB

Turn: (44.6 BB, 3 players)  3
UTG+1 checks, CO bets 29.7 BB, Hero calls 29.7 BB, fold

River: (104 BB, 2 players)  6
CO checks, Hero checks

CO shows  5 A  (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 31%, Flop 2%, Turn 3%)
Hero shows  9 A  (Full House, Threes full of Nines)
(Pre 69%, Flop 98%, Turn 97%)
Hero wins 104 BB








200#
392388732 发表于 2018-11-19 00:07:32 | 只看该作者
Ander_AK 发表于 2017-10-29 02:12
你对all in ev的理解是错误的。
你可以把all in ev理解为一个不能自由存取的银行,2万pot被9%小概率bb, ...

这个运气理解学习啦。。。之前想自己全下基本都是领先的,多数是被BB,后来就想通啦,每一次的中牌,每一次的手牌AA 都是运气的一种形式,只要上桌,运气总是一个平衡状态。
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