高低奥马哈学习点滴

更新三节
AUTOMATIC PLAY
1. In a heads-up pot, suppose you flop two pair and it looks as though your opponent has a low draw. What should you do if a low card comes on the turn?
Check and call through the river.
1 单挑底池，假设你翻牌两对，你对手看似有个低牌听牌。如果转牌一张小牌出现，你该如何处理？
过牌，河牌跟注。
2. If you flop what looks like the best hand, especially heads up, what should you do?
Punish your opponent.
2 如果你翻牌坚果，特别是在单挑底池中，你应该做甚麽？
下注或者过牌加注来惩罚你的对手。
3. What if your opponent has you beat?
He usually will play back. There is very little slow-playing in Omaha eight-or-better.
3 万一你对手能击败你呢？
那他通常会反击，因为高低奥马哈中很少慢玩（都是通过一个个下注单位来盈利，慢玩通常意味着损失价值）
4. What if the pot is contested by many players?
Some of your opponents will slow-play a bit more.
4 如果是多人底池呢？
有些玩家可能会更多的慢玩。
HIGH VERSUS LOWIN THREE-HANDED POTS 三人底池中的高低手对抗
1. Suppose you have a high hand that is not going to be easily beat, and it appears that both of
your opponents have made good low hands or have good low draws. What should you do if one
of the low hands bets and you are next?
In this situation, you should just call.
假设你有一手不会轻易被击败的高手成牌，你有两个对手，显而易见他们都有好的低手牌或者听牌，如果你在两者中间，前位玩家下注你应该如何玩？
在这种情况下，你应该只是跟注。
2. Why should you just call?
Since you are going to split the pot, just calling will enable you to chop up the player behind
you.
为何你只是跟注？
因为既然你至少可以确保获取底池的一半，那么跟注可以保证你可以四分在你身后的那名未行动的玩家。
3. Suppose your high hand is weak and there is some chance that it can be beat?
In this case, it may be correct to drive out the third player.

假如你的高牌是脆弱的，会被反超，在这种情况下，加注赶走你身后的玩家有可能是正确的打法。
4. On the river in a three-handed pot, if a high hand bets, a low hand calls, and you are next with
the nut low, should you automatically raise?
No, as you have to consider how the person in the middle plays.
三人底池打到了河牌，如果高手下注，低手牌跟注，你有坚果低牌，是否应该自动加注呢？
不，你得考虑中间跟注的玩家的倾向（比如会不会弃掉坚果低）。
5. If he is a weak player, what should you do?
Go ahead and jam it.
如果他是个弱手，你应该如何玩？
和前位玩家合作挤压他。
6. What if he is a fairly good player?
You probably should just call.
如果他是好手呢？
你可能只是跟注会比较好。
LOOSE GAMES
1. What type of hands do you need in loose games?
Hands that can make the nuts with draws and redraws to even better hands.
你在松局中应该考虑那些类型的起手牌？
那些可以作成坚果且有再听牌的起手牌。
2. What about just having an ace-deuce?
It will split the low or get counterfeited too often.
如果只有A2？
A2只能赢得低池且容易被抵消。
3. Be specific about hands required in loose games.
You want hands that have the best low, or the best low draw with chances to back-door
flushes, regular nut flush draws, straight draws, or trips, or a wheel with a chance of a six-
or seven-high straight.
定义一下在松的游戏中，哪些手牌够好？
你需要坚果低，或者坚果低听牌带后门花，坚果花听牌、顺子听牌、三条或者轮子牌带6，7高的顺子。
4. Why does being suited add value to your hand?
Because you often can jam when you make the low if you also have a draw at the high side.
为何同花牌可以增加你手牌的牌力？
因为当你做成低牌后，如果你有听花的机会时你可以攻击这个底池。
5. What about the bigger hands, such as four high straight cards suited up?
These hands don't do well in this type of game unless the pot gets played short-handed, or
you can enter the pot cheaply.
4张高牌带花的高牌如何？
这些牌在松局中表现不够理想，除非是短手桌，或者你可以便宜的看翻牌。（O9中也是如此，KQJTds的价值很小）
6. Give some premium hands for loose games.
and
给出好的起手牌例子。
(A245 AK23         AA34 AA2x)ds

7. What about four small cards?
They can do very well, but they almost always require an ace to hit on the flop. You usually
want to get in cheap with this hand.
4张小轮子牌如何？
轮子牌很不错，不过最需要的还是翻牌能击中A（保证成为坚果低牌），当有2345时，你需要的是便宜的玩这手牌。

楼主说的BIGO是5张Omaha高低？

the516876696 发表于 2017-8-31 23:16
楼主说的BIGO是5张Omaha高低？

是的，因为PS上已经开不起PLO8了，而博狗更是没有桌子，所以PLO8的线上cash桌基本已经消失了

rahj 发表于 2017-9-1 02:40
是的，因为PS上已经开不起PLO8了，而博狗更是没有桌子，所以PLO8的线上cash桌基本已经消失了
...

多谢楼主的回答，不过我看了一下，也没几个人玩，还是小众啊

the516876696 发表于 2017-9-1 20:59
多谢楼主的回答，不过我看了一下，也没几个人玩，还是小众啊

我描述的是一个趋势,PS上中低额度底池限注游戏的抽水太高,能开的起高额桌子的游戏是唯一选择
bigO的有50/100以上级别的桌子,虽然少,但是毕竟有的,然后你打个假钱试试,bigO这类游戏也是容易上头的,5张没那么好学

开学碰到教学评估，事多，今天继续更

MULTIWAY VERSUS SHORT-HANDED PLAY
长短桌的游戏区别
1. In a multiway pot, you need a very good hand. What about in short-handed pots?
It doesn't matter as much.
在长桌上，你应该玩相当好的起手牌。那么在短手桌上，你可以降低标准。
2. What are the most important factors in short-handed pots?
Your position and playing against weaker opponents over whom you have good control.
哪些是短桌上最重要的因素？
你的位置，尤其是你与可操控的弱玩家之间的位置。
3. Why are these factors important?
Because if a weak player can't make a low, he frequently folds, and unless he has a great
high hand, he gets scared by any card that comes out.
为何这些因素重要？
因为弱玩家不能做成坚果低，他将频繁的弃牌，除非他有相当好的高牌，否则任何一张惊悚牌出现，他都可能弃牌。
4. What happens to typical players?
They become accustomed to seeing many cinches in multiway pots and thus don't realize
that in heads-up pots they are not running into monster hands all the time.
这些典型的弱玩家会看到什么？
他们习惯在多人底池中看到怪兽牌出现（many cinches 可能是个习语吧，不太确定），因此在单挑底池中，他们没有意识到不可能每手都碰到哪些怪兽牌。
5. What does this mean?
You can bluff and maneuver your opponents when the pot is short-handed.
意味着什么呢？
当底池是短手池的情况，你可以大胆诈唬和操作里的对手
6. In a multiway pot, what does it mean when someone bets from an early position?
He usually has the nuts or something close to it.
在多人底池中，当有人翻后在前位下注说明什么？
他有着坚果牌或类坚果。
7. How does this affect your play?
You usually should get out, unless you also have a big hand.
你应该如何应对？
通常相对位置不好，你应该尽早弃牌，除非你有一手好的牌（而且需要redraw）
8. Suppose four or five players are in the pot and it is clear that they have fairly good hands. You
have a wrap-around hand with draws at both a good low and a good high, but these draws are not
for the nuts. What should you do?
In this situation, you usually should fold.
假设4，5名玩家在底池中，毫无疑问有人有坚果牌，你现在有一手有很多高手低手方向再听牌的手牌，但是没有nuts听牌，你需要做什么？
毫无疑问的一个fold
9. What if the pot is heads up and you hold the type of hand just described?
You can go ahead and jam.
如果单挑呢？
再加注，因为你出路很多
10. Example?
You start with and the flop comes If many players are
still in and it looks as though there may be a lot of action, you should fold. But if you areheads up and have a fairly big hand, you should play it as such, unless you are against a very tight player.
举例：A369ds，flop57Kss，击中了9花听牌和A3的低牌，如果很多玩家在池中，伴随着很多行动，这牌easy fold。如果你在单挑底池，你应该玩下去，除非你对抗的是一名翻前翻后都很紧的玩家。
11. What about a hand like A24Jss
This hand does OK heads up. But because of the redraw possibilities, it does very well if you expect many players.
As2d4hJs这手牌如何？
单挑的好牌，因为有很多redraw的可能性，对抗多名玩家由于有坚果优势，常常也是一首好牌。
12. What is the best hand to have in a heads-up pot?
The high hand. But you also would like to have a low draw, even if it is a poor one.
单挑底池中，什么是最好的牌？
高牌（因为可能低牌发不出来，概率不低），最好还要有个低牌听牌，那怕是5high的低牌听牌。
13. Why do you also want a low draw?
Because you might be sharing the high hand with your opponent.
为何你需要一个低牌听牌？
因为你可能会和对手平分大底池（通常是顺子）
14. Suppose you have what looks like a big hand but there are many possibilities the other way?
You must plan for these possibilities and determine the best way to deal with them.
假设你有一手大牌，而另一个方向有很多听牌呢？
你应该规划这些可能性，计算最优的处理方式。

15. Example?
In a two-handed pot, you start with
and the flop is Even though you have the nuts for high and no low is yet made, if your opponent plays back at you, you could be against the same high hand as you hold, plus a low draw. Consequently,
you may want to check and call on fourth street no matter what hits.
例子：在单挑底池中，你持AKJTss入池，flop 987r，见过你是Jhigh顺子翻牌的坚果，牌面上也没有低牌成牌，如果你遭遇反抗，多半是对手拿着坚果顺子和低牌听牌打算freeroll你，因此，你应该希望check-call转牌。
16. How do most people play when the game becomes five-handed or less?
Along the same lines as they normally play.
当玩5人以下的底池，玩家是如何调整的？
通常不做调整
17. What does this mean?
You have the opportunity to steal a lot of blinds.
那么这意味着
你应该有机会偷盲

再更4节

SCARE CARDS
惊悚牌
1. What does it mean when a player who has been just calling suddenly starts betting or raising
on the river?
Either he had the nuts the whole way or he just made the best hand.
一名玩家河牌前一直是跟注，到河牌突然下注或者加注？
他可能一直持有坚果牌或者到河牌做成的坚果牌。
2. What should you do in this situation?
You probably should go out, no matter how big the pot is. This is especially true if the last
card could have made the nuts for either high or low.
你应该如何处理？
你应该舍弃这个底池，不管底池多大。特别是当那张河牌使得新的坚果牌出现。
3. Example?
You start with On fourth street, the board is and the
last card is the If a player who has been just calling all along now bets, and the pot is subsequently raised by another player who isn't likely to be going low, you easily could be
against the nut flush as well as the nut low.
例子：你起手牌是KKQQss，转牌是K954ss，河牌来了张后门同花8，使得你的翻牌坚果KSET不再是坚果高牌了，如果一名一直在跟注的玩家开始下注，而另一名显然没有低牌的玩家随后加注，那么你可以简单判断出，你对抗的是同花以及坚果低牌。
4. Suppose the card that comes out is a scare card but not one that makes all the hands?
In this case, you don't have to check and give up all the bets on the end.
假设如果不是这么极端的情况，你可能还是单方的坚果牌。
在这种情况下，你不必像之前那样保守。
5. Example?
If the last card given in the previous example was the instead of the automatically throwing away your hand is wrong, even though someone may have made a straight with a seven-six.
例子：如果上述情况下，河牌是一张非同花牌面的8，那么自动丢掉你的Kset是不正确的，即便有人的76可能成了一个顺子。
6. How should you play in this spot? A lot of times you should go ahead and bet. If you get raised or the action becomes strong against you, then you can give it up.
这种情况如何玩？
大部分情况你还是应该主动下注，如果你被加注，然后你应该放弃。（不同意，这取决于位置，我刚刚打的一手bigo，如下
翻前我小盲位置QQ889ds补齐，5人池。
FlopQ47ss，有低牌听牌和同花听牌，我lead bet pot，跟注3人。TurnJ牌面两花色听牌，我继续bet pot，跟两家。
河牌是K，没有同花成牌和低牌成牌，这种情况不应该下注，简单过牌即可。实战中我SPR 1.1,BET-CALL，输了一个大底池）

GETTING COUNTERFEITED 被抵消
1. Do you get counterfeited frequently in Omaha eight-or-better? Yes.
你在O8中是否会经常被抵消？
没错
2. Example? Suppose you hold  and the flop comes  You have three aces, plus a wheel, which is the nut low. If there is a great deal of jamming on both the flop and fourth street, and a four or five hits on the river, you probably will be quartered by someone holding a six-high straight.
你手持AA45，flop是A23r，你翻牌坚果高和低，还有个葫芦的redraw，如果战斗持续到河牌，河牌出现了4或者5，那么通常情况不妙了，因为你有可能被6高的顺子给四分了。（这个例子举的有问题）

GETTING QUARTERED

被四分

1. Even though you don't get manyopportunities to make great plays in Omaha eight-or-better,when you have thechance to knock out someone who is drawing to the same hand that you are,shouldyou try to do so?

Yes.

如果能踢走能与你平分底池的玩家，何乐而不为之呢？

O8没有太多精彩的打法，我认为能份额实现最为关键，如果能拒绝对方的份额，那么就是相当成功的打法了。

2. What if you can't knock out this player?

You should throw away your hand.

如果已经打不走了，那么你应该考虑退出。

3. Example?

If you hold just an ace-deuce and thereis a lot of multiway action early, someone else also

has an ace-deuce. Consequently, youprobably should fold your hand.

举例：当你持A2在一个多人底池中，之前已经有很多行动表明其他人有A2了，由于你们持重复张，一旦中低牌对手会和你平分底池的低手牌部分，那么你最好的选择就是弃牌。

4. What is the exception to folding?

When you have other winning drawsworking in the hand.

什么情况下是例外？

当你另外一端也有胜张听牌或者保护张时，你也可以继续。

5. Is it difficult to knock out someonewho has an ace-deuce draw by raising into him?

Yes.

是否通过加注也难以打走一名A2玩家

是的。

6. But what if someone raises into you?

You probably should get out.

而其他玩家对你加注，你只有一个裸A2呢？

你可能应该弃牌咯。

7. What will typical players do?

They will call the raise cold and thenoften find themselves quartered.

通常情况下玩家会如何处理应对？

他们会coldcall加注并发现他们在中低牌的情况下被对手四分。

PLAYING AGAINST STEAMERS 如何对抗STEAMERS玩家

1. What effect do the tough beats inOmaha eight-or-better have on some players?

The beats turn some players intosteamers.

在O8中，强硬的连续打击一名玩家会有什么效果？

可能会导致玩家变身蒸汽机玩家。

2. How will the steamers play?

They will steam early in the hand.

上头的玩家怎么玩？

他们会在每手牌想通过翻前下注和cbet想夺下底池。

3. What about late in the hand?

They usually won't be raising or puttinga lot of action in the pot because they are still aware that it is too easy tolook at a cinch hand.

那么在一手牌的后期呢？

通常而言，他们不会在底池中弄出特别大的动作，因为他们还没有完全失去理智。

4. When someone is steaming, do you wantto isolate him?

Not usually.

当你上家每把都加注入池，你是否应该隔离他？

不必。我尝试在PLO8/BIGO中利用位置隔离对手，在低级别用处不大，还是可以不受印象去玩你的牌。高级别的话就看你对后面玩家的阅读吧，当手持高手牌的情况下尽然隔离。

5. Why not?

Because in Omaha eight-or-better, whathurts a weak hand the most is having many players

against it.

为何不用？

因为在O8中，对持弱牌进出的玩家伤害最大的不是单挑，而是多人锅。

6. What will isolating an opponent do?

It will make his hand a lot closer invalue to your hand.

隔离出一名玩家会怎么样？

会导致他和你手牌之间份额的接近，而O8位置对于实现胜率印象不大，所以你们其实比你想象中要更接近。

7. When is this particularly true?

When you hold a hand that can standmultiway action.

是在什么时候特别正确？

当你手持一手牌可以承受多路行动，那么你应该更倾向于玩多人底池，比如当你的A2有抵消张的时候。

8. What if you have strictly a highhand?

Then you might be better off trying toisolate the steamer.

上面已经讨论过，当你的高手牌不错的情况下，应该做隔离。

9. Can you get into trouble in thisspot?

Yes. In loose games, other playersusually will call behind you.

你是否会陷入困境？

是的，在松桌中，其他玩家会冷跟你的3bet入池。

继续更新一节

PLAYING AGAINST TIGHT, SOLID PLAYERS
如何对抗难缠的对手
1. What must you do in this game?
Get a line on your opponents. You must observe the type of hands they play and how they
play them.
1 在这种局里你应该如何游戏？
与你的对手保持一致，你应该观察他们游戏的手牌以及游戏方式。
2. What type of hands do some people play?
Low hands, plus a few premium high hands.
2 一些玩家会玩哪类手牌？
低牌，加上一些好的高牌。
3. How do you play against these players if only one low card comes on the flop?
You frequently can either bluff them out or beat them with a weak high hand.
3 当一张低牌出现在翻牌上，你应该如何对抗这类玩家？
你可以频繁诈唬下注或者用弱的高牌进行阻击。
4. Is position important?
Yes. Some players are very tight in early position but loosen up if they can come in late.
4 位置重要吗？
是的，有些玩家会在前位玩的十分紧，如果在后位会松下来。
5. What is the best way to save money?
Don't give any action to those players who play very tight and very solid.
5 省钱的最佳方式？
对抗那些玩的紧的玩家，最好不要给他们行动以支付。
6. What if the pot is large and one of these tight, solid players comes out betting or raising, or he
is in there on a jammed hand?
He almost always has the nuts for low and usually has some kind of nut draw for the high side.
6 当底池变大，一个紧的玩家开始下注或者加注，他通常手持什么底牌呢？
通常情况下，他有坚果低，同时在高端有坚果听牌。
7. What does this mean?
It doesn't pay to stay in these pots.
7 这说明什么？
你没有坚果牌就没有必要留在这种底池中。
8. How do you spot this type of player?
He is not in many pots, he does not raise very often, and he almost always shows the nuts
on the end.
8 你如何定位这类玩家？
他不会出现在很多底池中，他也不会经常加注，然后他通常会展示一手坚果牌。
9. What advantage do you have against these players?
You usually will know where they stand.
9 你对抗这类玩家的优势在于？
你经常能够读出他们的位置。
10. Where do you want these players seated?
To your right.
10 你希望这些玩家坐在那儿？
你的上家。
11. Why?
Because you will know that when they enter the pot, you should go out with all but your
very best hands.
11 为何？
因为只要观察他们的行动，你就能知道接下来你应该如何玩。
12. What if three or four of these tight players happen to be sitting in a row?
You probably would prefer to have them across from you.
12 如果三四个紧的玩家碰巧坐一排？
你应该更喜欢他们坐你对面。
13. Why?
Because if they are situated directly on your right, you probably will find yourself playing
many hands out of position with the looser players on your left.
13 为何？
因为如果他们都坐在你右手边，你只能选择在松手玩家的左手边玩牌，这通常都是在不利位置。
14. What is another advantage to having tight, unimaginative players on your right?
As the game becomes short-handed, they won't adjust.
14 你上家坐着一个又紧又没有想象力的玩家，还有什么优势？
当游戏变成短桌，通常他不会进行调整。
15. What will this enable you to do?
To play many hands against the blinds.
15 变短桌你应该如何玩？
多和盲注玩。
16. What about when you are in the blind?
Tight players will be in the attack position but will do very little stealing.
16 当你是盲注，你应该如何对抗？
紧的差玩家位置有利，但是翻前不会做太多的偷盲。
17. What if one of them raises?
You won't have to defend, as he will have a premium hand.
17 如果他们加注？
你就可以放弃抵抗，因为他们通常有一手好牌。
18. What if the little blind just calls and he is a tight, solid player?
You can raise and frequently outplay him.
18 小盲玩家平跟入池，他是紧手？
你应该频繁的加注他。
19. What if a tight, solid player is on your left?
You ordinarily could steal the blind from him.
19 如果这类玩家在你下家？
你应该经常的偷取他的盲注。
20. What is the problem with this in Omaha eight-or-better?
Unless the game is very tight, it seldom happens that you are on the button and no one else
comes in.
20 在O8中这有什么问题？
除非游戏十分的紧，否则很少你会正好处于按钮位，而前面的玩家都弃牌。（因此你无法单独对抗盲注玩家）