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161#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-6-10 07:33:47 来自手机 | 只看该作者
SleeplessInSEA 发表于 2017-6-10 01:54
第一手牌我觉得比第二手玄很多,这个牌你4bet的range好像说得过去的牌不是很多,我有点怀疑AA KK会不会这 ...

是啊,第一手的range太窄了,9/T/A/K的对子肯定没有的,唯一可以利用的是对手可能不知道这点,并且V找不出来我的bluff combos。总之像楼下说的自杀式诈唬。
162#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-6-10 07:37:18 来自手机 | 只看该作者
keybattle 发表于 2017-6-10 03:18
第一手瞎打
第二手稍微合理一点, 不过BVB 我大多4b A4s.


嘿嘿,要不我一天能输出去2500刀,瞎抡呗。
第二手 V ip 从不弃牌给4bet,所以我flat。
163#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-6-22 15:16:24 | 只看该作者
6.11号, 单SESSION输2000刀, 大概2个小时。
bankroll捉襟进肘了,一度降到1000刀以下。  然后不得不停下来,听取几位回复的意见,对情绪管理进行学习,拷问自己真的不是一件有趣的事,也不是容易的事。   

其次趁这段时间把PREFLOP的所有range确定下来, 打到这个级别不应该再以学习的名义去实验,应该把钱放在第一位了。   目前只确认了38个,并且还没有review.还有几十个要弄, 倒也不是我偷懒,要一边复盘一边确定RANGE,加上工作,陪小孩,时间也不是特别充分。 复盘的时候看着牌谱常扪心自问:“册那,搞毛线”。  复盘结束的时间还遥遥无期, 6万多手牌,且得看一阵子。

同时,还要降级去修补bankroll.     降到NL25,50,这几天打了两万手,盈利12BB/100h. 压倒性的优势,运气也好。

现在又回到NL100.   这一次要尊重每一个对手,以后不把对手称作鱼。只分为reg和rec(休闲玩家)两类。  




164#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-6-22 16:00:41 | 只看该作者
当今天再次回到NL100的时候,受到了隆重的欢迎。

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 362.88 BB (VPIP: 20.49, PFR: 16.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.56, Hands: 1,723)
SB: 100.79 BB (VPIP: 29.52, PFR: 20.95, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 213)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 266.84 BB (VPIP: 24.44, PFR: 18.44, 3Bet Preflop: 9.57, Hands: 458)
MP: 113.27 BB (VPIP: 18.68, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 604)
CO: 175.4 BB (VPIP: 19.15, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 7.83, Hands: 1,124)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  A A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 8.5 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, BTN raises to 362.88 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 75 BB and is all-in

Flop: (208.5 BB, 2 players)  J T 9

Turn: (208.5 BB, 2 players)  K

River: (208.5 BB, 2 players)  5
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (208.5 BB, 2 players)  T 7 2

Turn #2: (208.5 BB, 2 players)  J

River #2: (208.5 BB, 2 players)  K

Hero shows  A A  (One Pair, Aces)
Board #1 (Pre 88%, Flop 69%, Turn 86%)
(One Pair, Aces)
Board #2 (Pre 88%, Flop 93%, Turn 74%)

BTN shows  8 A  (High Card, Ace)
Board #1 (Pre 12%, Flop 31%, Turn 14%)
(Flush, Ace High)
Board #2 (Pre 12%, Flop 7%, Turn 26%)

BTN wins 103 BB
Hero wins 103 BB

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.79 BB (VPIP: 14.08, PFR: 8.45, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 74)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.86, PFR: 19.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 204)
BB: 119.54 BB (VPIP: 21.34, PFR: 15.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.53, Hands: 1,010)
UTG: 149.7 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 28)
Hero (MP): 131.48 BB
CO: 160.91 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 100)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  A K

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players)  3 K Q
Hero bets 3.09 BB, BTN raises to 6.18 BB, Hero raises to 30.3 BB, BTN calls 24.12 BB

Turn: (67.1 BB, 2 players)  6
Hero bets 98.68 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 66.99 BB and is all-in

River: (201.08 BB, 2 players)  9

Hero shows  A K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 63%, Flop 71%, Turn 84%)
BTN shows  J T  (Straight, King High)
(Pre 37%, Flop 29%, Turn 16%)
BTN wins 198.58 BB

喜欢这手牌的阅读和PLAY,  对手显然是个REC, 有时结果不尽如人意,just deal with it.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 118.16 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 6.59, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 95)
SB: 141.8 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (BB): 126.25 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.58, PFR: 17.89, 3Bet Preflop: 10.91, Hands: 128)
MP: 126.28 BB (VPIP: 26.28, PFR: 21.90, 3Bet Preflop: 11.13, Hands: 1,690)
CO: 66.74 BB (VPIP: 61.54, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  Q A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, BTN calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players)  Q 5 4
Hero bets 7.27 BB, BTN calls 7.27 BB

Turn: (40.04 BB, 2 players)  9
Hero bets 38.38 BB, BTN raises to 98.39 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 60.01 BB

River: (236.82 BB, 2 players)  2

Hero shows  Q A  (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows  4 4  (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 51%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 234.32 BB

4bb open 的rec. 然后flat a 3bet, 多数时候是中间对子,suited broadway;only hand make sense is 99 ott, can not convince myself to fold on this spot.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 110.03 BB
SB: 110.12 BB (VPIP: 27.69, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 66)
BB: 41.83 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 311.91 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
MP: 126.61 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 45)
CO: 263.25 BB (VPIP: 24.78, PFR: 19.61, 3Bet Preflop: 8.99, Hands: 477)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  4 3

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 27.75 BB, fold, Hero calls 18.75 BB

Flop: (60 BB, 2 players)  4 2 T
UTG bets 18.98 BB, Hero calls 18.98 BB

Turn: (97.96 BB, 2 players)  5
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (97.96 BB, 2 players)  Q
UTG bets 265.18 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 95.46 BB

这手牌应该是FOLD错了,  对手的LINE非常奇怪, Ackx,kc Ax 很可能这么打。 复盘的时候用flopzilla看了一下,虽然没有flush blocker但应该是call,因为我不可能用任何offs的非对子牌去对抗UTG的4BET.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 124.64 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 75)
Hero (SB): 110.69 BB
BB: 108.43 BB (VPIP: 21.28, PFR: 15.46, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 1,234)
UTG: 157.46 BB (VPIP: 37.04, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP: 106.19 BB (VPIP: 28.49, PFR: 19.55, 3Bet Preflop: 11.63, Hands: 184)
CO: 168.44 BB (VPIP: 24.21, PFR: 18.10, 3Bet Preflop: 9.73, Hands: 449)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  9 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players)  9 J 5
Hero checks, BB bets 10.5 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players)  4
Hero checks, BB bets 22 BB, Hero raises to 91.19 BB and is all-in, BB calls 66.93 BB and is all-in

River: (216.86 BB, 2 players)  8
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (216.86 BB, 2 players)  5

Hero shows  9 9  (Three of a Kind, Nines)
Board #1 (Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
(Full House, Nines full of Fives)
Board #2 (Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

BB shows  A A  (One Pair, Aces)
Board #1 (Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
(Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
Board #2 (Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

Hero wins 107.18 BB
Hero wins 107.18 BB

事情总会好转,  扑克大致应该也是公平的,怎么去的怎么回。

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 144.61 BB (VPIP: 18.07, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.77, Hands: 682)
Hero (SB): 104.89 BB
BB: 151.65 BB (VPIP: 52.94, PFR: 41.18, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 35)
UTG: 80.08 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 153.27 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 8.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 234)
CO: 96 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 105)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  4 A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BTN raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: (49 BB, 2 players)  3 A 2
Hero checks, BTN bets 17.22 BB, Hero calls 17.22 BB

Turn: (83.44 BB, 2 players)  9
Hero checks, BTN bets 29.95 BB, Hero calls 29.95 BB

River: (143.34 BB, 2 players)  4
Hero bets 33.72 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 140.84 BB

V super nitty weak REG,   he flat AK most of the time, and 4bet JJ-AA 100% ip.  so 5bet isn't really an option. postflop, V managed a hilarious sizing ott, pretty sure hero is ahead, but just in case.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 330.34 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 245.78 BB (VPIP: 25.10, PFR: 19.02, 3Bet Preflop: 10.48, Hands: 774)
BB: 312.87 BB (VPIP: 37.25, PFR: 21.57, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 52)
UTG: 126.07 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.19, PFR: 18.62, 3Bet Preflop: 10.73, Hands: 702)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  A 4

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, SB raises to 16 BB, fold, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins 38 BB
一般我是这么打A4s.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 191.9 BB (VPIP: 18.35, PFR: 13.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.12, Hands: 660)
SB: 146.11 BB (VPIP: 25.08, PFR: 19.22, 3Bet Preflop: 6.30, Hands: 635)
BB: 147.84 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 108.02 BB (VPIP: 37.18, PFR: 14.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 79)
MP: 87.45 BB (VPIP: 12.75, PFR: 7.37, 3Bet Preflop: 0.91, Hands: 574)
Hero (CO): 135.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  A 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players)  K A A
SB bets 6.58 BB, Hero raises to 13.16 BB, SB calls 6.58 BB

Turn: (47.32 BB, 2 players)  8
SB checks, Hero bets 13.49 BB, fold

Hero wins 44.95 BB

这手牌,在转牌我犯了一个巨大的错误。   不去完整复盘的时候容易错过赢的那些POT里的漏洞。

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 187.56 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 35.71, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 28)
SB: 272.93 BB (VPIP: 19.70, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 68)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.91, PFR: 19.15, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 556)
MP: 354.37 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
Hero (CO): 107.38 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  7 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players)  2 9 K
SB bets 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.12 BB, SB calls 8.12 BB

Turn: (31.74 BB, 2 players)  2
SB checks, Hero bets 30.3 BB, SB calls 30.3 BB

River: (92.34 BB, 2 players)  3
SB bets 89.84 BB, Hero calls 62.46 BB and is all-in

SB shows  Q K  (Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
(Pre 59%, Flop 62%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows  7 5  (Flush, King High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 38%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 214.76 BB

早就说过,Donk是古龙笔下的兵器, 出鞘就有一方要倒下。   V在河牌再次DONK把hero吓尿了, maybe hero just not good enough to fold this hand.      

165#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-6-22 16:37:07 | 只看该作者

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 135.34 BB
SB: 656.71 BB (VPIP: 24.04, PFR: 18.07, 3Bet Preflop: 7.60, Hands: 2,080)
BB: 125.64 BB (VPIP: 21.79, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.21, Hands: 875)
UTG: 102.88 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 104.18 BB (VPIP: 26.27, PFR: 22.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.43, Hands: 228)
CO: 237 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 10.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.10, Hands: 327)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players)  2 T T
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (18.5 BB, 2 players)  5
BB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (36.5 BB, 2 players)  2
BB checks, Hero bets 10.4 BB, BB raises to 107.64 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 54.8 BB

刚发完贴,兴致勃勃又去打一session.  sick river.  sicker thin value, sickest xr.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 152.33 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 450.18 BB (VPIP: 19.93, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.98, Hands: 2,947)
BB: 125.23 BB (VPIP: 22.83, PFR: 19.07, 3Bet Preflop: 9.15, Hands: 1,284)
UTG: 67.87 BB (VPIP: 27.45, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
MP: 100.64 BB (VPIP: 3.85, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (CO): 200.44 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players)  8 4 J
SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players)  4
SB bets 23.5 BB, Hero calls 23.5 BB

River: (86 BB, 2 players)  Q
SB bets 57.5 BB, fold

SB wins 83.5 BB

daily routine.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 42.71 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
SB: 99 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 265.86 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.69, PFR: 17.97, 3Bet Preflop: 6.93, Hands: 2,535)
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  K K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, fold

Flop: (27 BB, 2 players)  5 A T
Hero bets 45 BB, BTN calls 30.71 BB and is all-in

Turn: (88.42 BB, 2 players)  2

River: (88.42 BB, 2 players)  J

Hero shows  K K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 78%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
BTN shows  5 6  (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 22%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 85.92 BB

sweet short stack rec

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 68.83 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 14.06, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 67)
SB: 109.77 BB (VPIP: 22.77, PFR: 19.01, 3Bet Preflop: 9.02, Hands: 1,278)
BB: 103.35 BB (VPIP: 29.66, PFR: 19.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 240)
Hero (UTG): 101.22 BB
MP: 235.73 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 124.25 BB (VPIP: 21.28, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 99)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  A K

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players)  A 2 8
SB bets 10.17 BB, Hero raises to 20.34 BB, SB raises to 99.77 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 70.88 BB and is all-in

Turn: (203.44 BB, 2 players)  4

River: (203.44 BB, 2 players)  3
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (203.44 BB, 2 players)  T

River #2: (203.44 BB, 2 players)  8

SB shows  T Q  (High Card, Ace)
Board #1 (Pre 39%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
(Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
Board #2 (Pre 39%, Flop 7%, Turn 12%)

Hero shows  A K  (One Pair, Aces)
Board #1 (Pre 61%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
(Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
Board #2 (Pre 61%, Flop 93%, Turn 88%)

Hero wins 100.47 BB
Hero wins 100.47 BB

上头的reg, 依稀看到hero自己曾经的影子。





166#
lordzxd 发表于 2017-7-17 21:17:28 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 lordzxd 于 2017-7-17 21:18 编辑
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-6-22 16:37
PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

AJo 被SB 3bet这局没玩好。

flop 上简单mini-raise一下,后面会好打些,不然陷入无止境的猜测中,会很难搞。

话说楼主很久没冒泡了,最近战绩不佳的缘故?
167#
 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-7-20 10:24:05 来自手机 | 只看该作者
lordzxd 发表于 2017-7-17 21:17
AJo 被SB 3bet这局没玩好。

flop 上简单mini-raise一下,后面会好打些,不然陷入无止境的猜测中,会很难 ...

还在填坑。PS取消vip,开箱子耍猴,返水每月少7-8百刀,没动力打了。你看连大神赵薇都退出ps了。  正琢磨着过几天去澳门现场打几天
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