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几局2.2 90人SNG的复盘(2)请大家多多指教

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flyinglion 发表于 2011-1-11 07:27:55 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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第二部分——关于allin的选择

2.1 这些牌值不值得allin?

第1手
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 9 players

MP2: t3070 76.75 BBs
CO: t265 6.62 BBs
BTN: t5240 131 BBs
SB: t1820 45.50 BBs
BB: t4345 108.62 BBs
Hero (UTG): t1930 48.25 BBs
UTG+1: t2165 54.12 BBs
UTG+2: t1955 48.88 BBs
MP1: t1145 28.62 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero calls t40, 3 folds, MP2 raises to t280, CO calls t265 all in, 3 folds, Hero calls t240

Flop: (t885) 4 8 Q (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t240, Hero folds

Turn: (t885) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t885) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

问题:AK在初期是否值得allin?
思考:AX在比赛初期也不好处理,我一般都是加注3~4BB,flop是否CBET取决于我有没有击中以及进局的人数。这手的情况有些特殊,因为CO位置只有265的筹码,我觉得他很可能会allin,所以在这里只是跟注,想的是如果后面有人跟注,CO allin那我也可以顺势allin,比加注然后被人跟好处理。糟糕的是MP2突然加了个大注,让我很难受。当时是觉得AK不值得去allin,扔掉又太弱,所以决定跟注看看翻牌再说。但是翻牌没中也很难继续下去了。现在想想或许还是按照原计划allin的好?那样大不了就是个抛硬币的局面,如果是AAKK我也就认了。还请大家指点。

第2手
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 8 players

MP1: t7460 M = 14.92
MP2: t3800 M = 7.60
CO: t4116 M = 8.23
BTN: t5435 M = 10.87
Hero (SB): t16327 M = 32.65
BB: t3313 M = 6.63
UTG: t5694 M = 11.39
UTG+1: t4186 M = 8.37

Pre Flop: (t500) Hero is SB with T T
2 folds, MP1 raises to t600, 3 folds, Hero raises to t16302 all in, 2 folds

问题:TT allin,值不值?不值的话,怎么玩好?
思考:主要是没有位置,而且BB的筹码不多。如果跟注的话,BB可能会allin,要是MP1也跟着all,我就麻烦了。加注的话,加得走还好,加不走的话翻牌后也难受,而且一旦对手跟注很可能就会奉陪到底,所以这里我选择了全压。但是又觉得拿TT去全压36BB,会不会太多了?

第3手——类似牌例
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 9 players

UTG+2: t5550 M = 10.57
MP1: t1814 M = 3.46
MP2: t12504 M = 23.82
CO: t6093 M = 11.61
BTN: t1813 M = 3.45
Hero (SB): t6057 M = 11.54
BB: t5167 M = 9.84
UTG: t6907 M = 13.16
UTG+1: t6076 M = 11.57

Pre Flop: (t525) Hero is SB with T T
UTG raises to t400, 6 folds, Hero calls t300, BB calls t200

Flop: (t1425) K 7 A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets t400, Hero folds, BB calls t400

Turn: (t2225) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t400, BB calls t400

River: (t3025) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, UTG checks

思考:和上面一手的情况差不多,区别是这把大家的筹码都差不多,另外这把牌里的UTG很不讲道理,是那种有个对子就要跟你玩check allin的家伙。自己觉得这把牌打得非常臭,现在也没想出来怎么处理好。我的TT对付UTG应该是不错的牌了,但是这里不应该只是call,我call了BB基本也会call,这样的话就难受了。但是加多少是个问题,因为对手几乎没有弃牌率,所以不管怎么样翻牌出来肯定要干了,要不然索性别玩。不过TT又不保险,现在想来是不是直接allin的好?气势上也能盛一点。跟注当抽牌打,会不会太可惜了一些?结果是UTG的KQ输给了BB的AT。

2.2 这两手牌all好还是不all好?

第1手
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds + t15 - 7 players

Hero (UTG+1): t2325 M = 8.16
MP: t3017 M = 10.59
CO: t9338 M = 32.76
BTN: t4160 M = 14.60
SB: t5896 M = 20.69
BB: t6115 M = 21.46
UTG: t3101 M = 10.88

Pre Flop: (t285) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 3
UTG calls t120, Hero calls t120, MP calls t120, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t645) 3 2 J (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t120, Hero raises to t360, MP folds, BB folds, UTG calls t240

Turn: (t1365) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t1365) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets t360, Hero raises to t1830 all in, UTG folds

问题:不all?
思考:整手牌下来,对手很可能是有张J,所以主动在河底下注。加注一些的话,他应该愿意跟注看翻牌的,全压反倒吓走了。

第2手
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds + t10 - 9 players

MP1: t5425 M = 22.60
MP2: t6094 M = 25.39
CO: t9339 M = 38.91
BTN: t2109 M = 8.79
SB: t1170 M = 4.88
Hero (BB): t5685 M = 23.69
UTG: t2040 M = 8.50
UTG+1: t3736 M = 15.57
UTG+2: t4047 M = 16.86

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is BB with 5 3
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t226, 2 folds, MP2 calls t226, 3 folds, Hero calls t126

Flop: (t818) 6 7 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets t900, Hero raises to t1800, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls t900

Turn: (t4418) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t1300, MP2 folds

问题:all?
思考:投机中了,turn的7让我又喜又悲,喜的是如果对手有7的话很可能愿意跟我玩下去,悲的是如果对手没7的话也赚不了啥了。现在觉得turn的下注不合理,彩池其实已经允许全压了,下少了反而让人起疑。下少了还会有个麻烦,虽然这个可能不大,但是有抽牌的话也值得抽一下了,到河底不管是同花还是顺子,我都是小的那一个。结果可能一样,但是过程不对。不知道我的思考里是不是有什么盲点?
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giggsye 发表于 2011-1-13 15:28:48 | 只看该作者
看到这手就先谈谈想法:
第1手
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds + t15 - 7 players

Hero (UTG+1): t2325 M = 8.16
MP: t3017 M = 10.59
CO: t9338 M = 32.76
BTN: t4160 M = 14.60
SB: t5896 M = 20.69
BB: t6115 M = 21.46
UTG: t3101 M = 10.88

Pre Flop: (t285) Hero is UTG+1 with 3s 3c
UTG calls t120, Hero calls t120, MP calls t120, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t645) 3d 2s Js (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t120, Hero raises to t360, MP folds, BB folds, UTG calls t240

Turn: (t1365) 2c (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t1365) 8h (2 players)
UTG bets t360, Hero raises to t1830 all in, UTG folds

我觉得这手牌在turn应该下注,无论对手有J还是draw都可以榨取一次利润
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 楼主| flyinglion 发表于 2011-1-14 06:39:41 | 只看该作者
嗯,谢谢,现在想明白了,这手牌的问题根本不在于all不all,而是拿到SET就该往allin发展了,要不然自己很尴尬,加小了呵呵:)谢谢!
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