10月10号的第一把牌

今天在FTP打了一会儿牌，这是我的第一手牌，觉得挺有讨论价值的。问题是；如果你是theASHMAN103 ，会不会拿6千刀去看Flop？我个人觉得他有点太松了。

Full Tilt Poker Game #24587977397: Table Tiaquinn (6 max, shallow) - $50/$100 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:23:58 ET - 2010/10/10
Seat 1: David Chiu ($4,000)
Seat 2: theASHMAN103 ($15,279)
Seat 3: Luukie21 ($6,060.50)
Seat 4: rumprammer ($4,150)
Seat 5: URnotINdanger2 ($5,394)
Seat 6: tyme2gamb0l111 ($4,000)
tyme2gamb0l111 posts the small blind of $50
David Chiu posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to David Chiu [Ac 9d Ah Jd]
theASHMAN103 has 15 seconds left to act
TheZodiacKiller (Observer): i love pigs day, time when all the familly get together and sing songs
theASHMAN103 has requested TIME
theASHMAN103 raises to $350
Bridgepool (Observer): lovely
FreshFluffy (Observer): old mc donald had a farm?
Luukie21 calls $350
Hattenford (Observer): we had our dinner om friday... so i got leftover turkey breast for sanmmies
rumprammer calls $350
URnotINdanger2 calls $350
tyme2gamb0l111 folds
tyme2gamb0l111 adds $50
Hattenford (Observer): yummmmmmmm
JIM_PAVER 1 (Observer): this little pig went to market
Bridgepool (Observer): lol Fresh
David Chiu raises to $2,150
Macky2 (Observer): thanksgiving rules\
TheZodiacKiller (Observer): turkey to dry
theASHMAN103 calls $1,800
Luukie21 raises to $6,060.50, and is all in
rumprammer has 15 seconds left to act
rumprammer calls $3,800, and is all in
URnotINdanger2 folds
David Chiu calls $1,850, and is all in
theASHMAN103 calls $3,910.50
Luukie21 shows [Jh Kh Tc Kc]
rumprammer shows [9c 6h 8s Th]
David Chiu shows [Ac 9d Ah Jd]
theASHMAN103 shows [Ts 4d As 7d]
Hattenford (Observer): not with thr correct amount of salt and butter sir
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2d 2s]
*** TURN *** [Qc 2d 2s] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2d 2s 4c] [9s]
Luukie21 shows two pair, Kings and Twos
Bridgepool (Observer): Turkey not for me
theASHMAN103 shows two pair, Fours and Twos
Luukie21 wins side pot #2 ($3,821) with two pair, Kings and Twos
rumprammer shows two pair, Nines and Twos
Luukie21 wins side pot #1 ($450) with two pair, Kings and Twos
David Chiu shows two pair, Aces and Twos
TheZodiacKiller (Observer): u americans have thanksgiving, we have pigs day
David Chiu wins the main pot ($16,397) with two pair, Aces and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,671 Main pot $16,400. Side pot 1 $450. Side pot 2 $3,821. | Rake $3
Board: [Qc 2d 2s 4c 9s]
Seat 1: David Chiu (big blind) showed [Ac 9d Ah Jd] and won ($16,397) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 2: theASHMAN103 showed [Ts 4d As 7d] and lost with two pair, Fours and Twos
Seat 3: Luukie21 showed [Jh Kh Tc Kc] and won ($4,271) with two pair, Kings and Twos
Seat 4: rumprammer showed [9c 6h 8s Th] and lost with two pair, Nines and Twos
Seat 5: URnotINdanger2 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: tyme2gamb0l111 (small blind) folded before the Flop

这样的情况之下,
相对于Luukie21的[Jh Kh Tc Kc],
我宁可拿theASHMAN103的[9c 6h 8s Th],
不知道对否?

抢个沙发。口袋A在哪都是强牌啊。
光顾着看牌局去了。楼上比我快40秒。

天文数字。。。大概这就是传说中的赌博了
不过ASHMAN好像是用4000去看16000的FLOP吧。那还说得过去吧。我可能看错了。

这样的情况之下,
相对于Luukie21的[Jh Kh Tc Kc],
我宁可拿theASHMAN103的[9c 6h 8s Th],
不知道对否? ...
建设2008 发表于 2010-10-11 03:54

通常情况是对的，这些中间张面对对手的AA比KK带大牌的胜率要好一些。

但是这手牌是多人进锅，拿着689T不是要担心David的AA，而是要担心其他人的中坚张，因为他的牌太容易被压制了。如果有人拿着89TJ，他就基本绝望了。事实上这手牌那个KKJT对他的影响比David的AA要大。另外一点就是同花的潜力，显然K同花要远好于T同花。

我在扑士杂志的新手入门里也提过，带大对子的起手牌最怕遇到AA，而连张的起手牌最怕遇到比自己大的连张。多人锅常常出现这些连环的冤家牌。就这手特定的牌而言，689T是四个人里胜率最低的，主要原因是其他三家都有同花可能，而他实际上没有。

给老邱转一下格式。另外咱也别被老邱玩的级别吓到，你就算完1万-2万的，扑克的原理还是一样的，呵呵。这句话说出来主要是给我自己壮壮胆。

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $100.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

David Chiu (BB) ($4000)
UTG ($15279)
MP ($6060.50)
CO ($4150)
Button ($5394)
SB ($4000)

Preflop: David Chiu is BB with A, 9, A, J
UTG bets $350, MP calls $350, CO calls $350, Button calls $350, 1 fold, David Chiu raises to $2150, UTG calls $1800, MP raises to $6060.50 (All-In), CO calls $3800 (All-In), 1 fold, David Chiu calls $1850 (All-In), UTG calls $3910.50

Flop: ($20671) Q, 2, 2 (4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($20671) 4 (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($20671) 9 (4 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $20671 | Rake: $3
Main pot: $16400 between David Chiu, UTG, MP and CO, won by David Chiu
Side pot 1: $450 between UTG, MP and CO, won by MP
Side pot 2: $3821 between UTG and MP, won by MP

Results:
David Chiu had A, 9, A, J (two pair, Aces and twos).
UTG had 10, 4, A, 7 (two pair, fours and twos).
MP had J, K, 10, K (two pair, Kings and twos).
CO had 9, 6, 8, 10 (two pair, nines and twos).
Outcome: David Chiu won $16397, MP won $4271

好高深啊，好好学习一下

URNOTINDANGER 逃了

这帮人,打着1K2K的，还一边聊天吃火鸡，真逗。

够驴，钱多，速来......

吃火鸡的是OB..