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long23th 发表于 2010-9-25 10:56:59 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
这篇文章,我看了之后觉得帮助很大,是翻译到目前为止,除了SSNHE这本书之外,帮助最大的一片文章,强烈建议大家都看看。&


This is a how-to post, but it doesn't belong in the software forum; it's to teach people how they can use the Poker Tracker data to find flaws in their game.

这是一篇“如何”系列的文章,但并不归类在软件论坛;目的是教会人们如何使用Poker Tracker来找到他们在牌局中的缺点。
Not a week goes by that someone doesn't ask if they are playing the game right. In that post, they include a dozen numbers from Poker Tracker and hope that the old-timers on SSNL can fix all their holes. While it's true that Poker Tracker can help find problems, this is not the way to approach it.

几天前,有人问他打的是不是正确。在那篇帖子里,他们贴了很多Poker Tracker的数据,并希望SSNL的前辈能帮他们修补漏洞。当然Poker Tracker能帮助我们找到问题,但是在论坛里发帖求助不是正确的利用Poker Tracker的方法。
I'm going to try to give you a rough guide for the things you can do to check on your game. These are all just my opinion; they're all subject to interpretation, and other people may disagree with me strongly. The best way to play is usually player-specific, but these strike me as some things you can check on that are frequent flaws in the small-stakes player's game.

我将给你一些关于如何检查你的牌局的大概指导。这些都是我个人的意见。它们是我个人的理解,并且可能其他人会非常不同意我的观点。最好的打法是针对每个不同的玩家来制定战术,但是通过检查你能发现小额玩家常见的缺点。
1. Do you have sufficient preflop aggression? To answer this question, open up your ring game statistics and go to the "position stats" page. For each position other than the small blind, divide the "PF Raise %" by the "Vol. Put $ In Pot." If you get a number smaller than 0.5, you're not aggressive enough out of that position. See, aggression is a relative term; it should be a function of your level of looseness. You can be a consistently winning player at SSNL with a VPIP of 12%, and you can be a consistently winning player at SSNL with a VPIP of 30%, but only if you are sufficiently aggressive. My general guideline is that you should raise at least half the hands you play, from every position on the table.

1.你在悬牌圈是否具有足够的攻击性?为了回答这个问题,打开你的现金游戏统计,在选择“position stats”页面。在每个与小盲注对抗的位置上,用“PF Raise %”去处以“Vol.Put $ In Pot.”。如果你得到的数字小于0.5,就说明你在那些位置攻击性不够强。看,攻击性一个相对术语;它应该是你有多松的反应。你可以一直赢VPIP是12%的SSNL玩家,你也可以一直赢VPIP是30%的SSNL玩家,但是只有当你非常具备攻击性才可以做到这些。我的通常方针是你应该至少用一半的牌去加注,无论你在桌上的那个位置。
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 楼主| long23th 发表于 2010-9-25 10:58:30 | 只看该作者
2. Are you position ally aware? Positional awareness means that you understand Ed Miller's comment when he said:

2.你是否意识到了位置和打法的相关性?位置相关性意味着你理解了Ed Miller的观点:

Quote:
Total all the dollars you've ever bet playing poker. The large majority of those dollars should have been bet from late position. Only a small percentage of your total handle should have been bet from up front.

在所有你下注的筹码中。绝大多数的筹码应该是从后位下注的。只有很少的一部分是从前面的位置下注的。
To test this, go to the Position Stats and look down the list of VPIP from Button to UTG. You should see that VPIP steadily dropping the farther you get from the button. I'd love to see my button VPIP at double my UTG VPIP, but if my Button VPIP is at least 50% larger than my UTG VPIP, I'm happy with the situation.

用来检查这项,从Position Stats里看一下从按钮位置到枪口位置的VPIP列表。你应该看到从按钮位置开始,VPIP是逐渐减少的。我非常想看到我在按钮位置的VPIP是我在枪口位置的VPIP的1倍,但是实际上我的按钮位置的VPIP比枪口位置的VPIP多50%,我对于这种情况还是很高兴的。
3. How's my stealing? To check on your performance when trying a blind steal, go to the General Info. tab. Where it says "Att. To Steal Blinds" I'd like to see that number at LEAST 20%. (Personally, I like mine to be over 30%, but I'm very aggressive in these situations. If you're trying to steal the blinds less than 20% of the time, you're leaving lots of money on the table.) Now click on "Filters..." and under "Chance to Steal Blinds" click "Chance to Steal & Raised." Select OK and look at the numbers. This shows every time you've tried to steal the blinds, and how the attempt turned out for you. Under "Totals" see the "BB/Hand" statistic. That shows your per-hand winrate on blind steals. If you multiply this number by 100, it should be at least double your "PTBB/100" average winrate. If it's much less than that and you have a decent sample size, you have a hole in your game when it comes to blind stealing. This should be an exceedingly profitable thing to do when you try it; if it's not, you need to work on your strategy.

3.我如何偷盲注?为了检查你偷盲注的成绩,通过“General Info”标签里的“Att. To Streal Blinds”,我想看到这个数字至少是20%(我想我自己的数字大于30%,但是我在这种情况下非常具有攻击性。如果你偷盲注的时候小于20%,你就少赚了很多钱。)现在,再点击“Filter…”,在“Chance To Steal Blinds”下,点击“Chance To Steal & Raised.”,按下OK按钮后,查看这个数值。这显示了你每次尝试偷盲注时,以及尝试失败的次数(可能不对??)。在“Totals”下的“BB/Hand”统计,显示了你偷盲注的赢率。如果你把这个数字乘上100,他至少应该是你的“PTBB/100”的平均赢率的1倍。如果它太少了,并且你记录的牌局数量足够多(采样样本),说明你在有机会偷盲注的时候,有一个漏洞(没有去偷)。当你尝试去这么做的时候,应你该是一件非常有利可图的事情;但是如果无效的话,你还是应该按照你原先的策略去玩。
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 楼主| long23th 发表于 2010-9-25 10:59:26 | 只看该作者
4. Defending the blinds. Click on "Turn Filter Off," and then click on "Filters..." again. Under "Blind Status" click on "Either Blind." Now under "Vol. Put $ In Pot" click on "Put Money In." This shows you if you're bleeding money out of the blinds. A "BB/Hand" of about -0.375 would indicate that you were no better off putting money into the pot than if you had folded. If your "BB/Hand" is larger than that, then you typically win back some of your blind money when you put money into the pot from the blinds. That's all you can really hope for. If you click on "Filters..." again and go under "Steal Attempted Against Your Blind" and click on "Steal Attempted." After you click "OK" you'll now see how you did when you chose to defend against a blind steal. Again, the magic number is for your "BB/Hand" to be bigger than -0.375; that means you're making back some of your blinds when you try to defend against a steal. If either of these numbers is lower than -0.375, you'd lose less money by always folding rather than doing what you're doing.

4.保卫盲注。点击“Turn Filter Off,”,再点击“Filters…”。在“Blind Status”下点击“Either Blind”。然后在“Vol.Put $ In Pot”下点击“Put Money In”。这项值表示你除了盲注之外投入的钱(别人加注盲注,你跟或再加注的那部分钱)。如果“BB/Hand”的数值在-0.375左右的话,说明你投钱保卫盲注还不如直接弃牌的好。而如果你的“BB/Hand”数字大于-0.375的话,说明你在盲注位之投钱后能赢回一些你的盲注。这就是你真正能期望的。你再次点击“Filters…”,在“Steal Attempted Against Your Blind”下点击“Steal Attempted”,在按下OK按钮之后,你就能看到你的盲注保卫工作做得如何了。同样,神奇的数字“BB/Hand”大于-0.375的话,说明你对抗偷盲注的工作成功的捍卫了一部分的盲注。如果这两项数字都小于-0.375的话,说明你直接选择弃牌会比你现在做的要少输钱。


4 y1 H- v8 y) e  T: t  q5. Heads-up play. Click on “Turn Filter Off,” then click on “Filters…” again. Under “Hands With Between…Players Seeing The Flop” change the range from “0 to 10 players” to “2 to 2 players.” Hit “OK” and see what comes up. This shows you how you’ve done when you were heads-up preflop, but a flop was dealt. See how you’ve done in these situations. If things look OK, go back to “Filters…” and under “Pre-flop Raise” select “No Raise.” This will show you how you’ve done when you didn’t raise preflop, but the hand was heads-up on the flop (this includes pure limping and when someone ELSE raised preflop, but not when you were the preflop raiser). Is this number positive? If not, it could be an indicator that you have trouble when you are not the aggressor preflop, especially without padding in the pot.

5.单挑玩法。再次点击“Turn Filter Off”,然后点击“Filters…”。在“Hands With Between…Players Seeing The Flop”下把“0 to 10 players”改成“2 to 2 players”。按下OK按钮后,看看出现了什么。这显示了你在单挑的preflop是如何做的,flop如何处理的。看看你在这种情况下是如何处理的。如果看起来不错,回到“Filters…”,在“Pre-flop Raise”下选择“No Raise”,这显示了你在preflop没有加注,但是在flop是单挑的情况下(包括你跛入,别人加注的情况),你是如何处理的。这些数值时正的吗?如果不是,它就说明了你在preflop不够攻击性,尤其是没有加注(??)


  X- M& e7 d( e& v( k. N% _6. Multiway pots. Clear the filter and go back under filters. Change “Hands With Between…Players Seeing The Flop” to “3 to 10 players.” This shows you how you do in multiway pots. If things look good, go back and select “No Raise” under “Pre-flop Raise.” Is it still positive? If so, you’re selecting good times to play/limp multiway pots, and you’re playing them well postflop.

6.多人对抗彩池。“Turn Filter Off”,再点击“Filters…”。把“Hands With Between…Players Seeing The Flop”改成“3 to 10 players”。这显示了你在多人对抗下的战绩。如果看起来不错,回到“Filter”,在“Pre-flop Raise”下选择“No Raise”。它还是正的吗?如果是的话,说明你选择了正确的时机去参与/跛入多人对抗彩池,并且你在之后的几道上玩的都不错。
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 楼主| long23th 发表于 2010-9-25 11:00:42 | 只看该作者
7. Pocket pairs. Under “Filters…” change the “Type of Hole Cards” to “Pairs.” This will show you how you generally play and perform with pocket pairs. Your Total VPIP with these should be EXTREMELY high; unless you play at highly unusual tables, I’d be surprised to see this number below 85%. Pocket pairs make extremely powerful hands that are extremely well-hidden; if you’re not playing them almost all the time, you’re leaving money on the table. Also, your Total PFR% with these hands should be rather high -- at least 1/3 of your VPIP, if not 1/2. Some people have this number higher still, and I don’t have a problem with that, especially at short-handed tables. If you have enough hands, I’d expect every one of these lines to be positive, and reasonably significantly so. If you have any glaringly negative numbers, especially AA-88, it may indicate bad play. Look over individual hands where you lose lots of money and see if you played too timidly early in the hand, or if you went too far unimproved in the face of resistance. Also, look at the hands where you won to see if you played too timidly, or if you routinely forced weaker hands out when you should have been milking them for profits.、

7.口袋对子。在“Filters…”下,改变“Type of Hole Cards”为“Paris”,这显示了你用口袋对子玩得怎么样。你的这项VPIP应该相当高,除非你玩相当不同寻常的桌子,如果这个数字小于85%,我会感到非常惊讶。口袋对子非常强而且非常隐蔽;如果你大部分的时间不玩它们的话,你就少赚很多钱。当然,你的用口袋对子的PFR%也应该很高——至少是VPIP的1/3,或者1/2。有些人甚至更高,我对此没有意见,尤其是在短桌上。如果你记录的牌局数量足够多,我认为所有人的这行都应该是正的,这明显是很合理的。如果你有任何明显的负数,特别是AA-88,说明你打得很烂。看一下那些你输了比较多的牌局,看看是不是你在牌局早期打得比较胆小,或者你在遇到抵抗时,在牌力没有提升的情况下,走得过远了。再看看那些你赢钱的牌,你是否玩的胆小,或者是否在可以赚更多钱的时候,例行公事的迫使差牌弃牌。

8. Suited connectors. Under “Filters…” change “Type of Hole Cards” to “Suited Connectors.” I’m much less likely to play suited connectors than pocket pairs, but some people play them religiously. As a result, I don’t really have a good suggestion as to how high your VPIP or PFR should be. However, your BB/hand should be positive; if it’s not, you’re probably not playing your suited connectors well. Remember: these hands play best in a multiway, unraised pot, or as a steal move. In the “Filters…” change “Vol. Put $ In Pot” to “Cold-Called.” When you hit OK, you should have almost no entries to view. Of the times you cold-called, you should be able to come up with a specific explanation for why you did so in each and every one of them. Review the hand histories; if you can’t come up with a really good reason why you thought it better to cold-call, rather than raise or fold, you need to rethink your suited connector strategy. Good explanations: the raise was very small, villain is passive post-flop, I had position on villain, villain and I are both extremely deep-stacked, villain is incredibly aggressive preflop, my suited connectors are particularly strong, there are several cold-callers in front of me, etc. I’m not saying you shouldn’t ever cold-call with suited connectors; rather, I’m saying you shouldn’t AUTOMATICALLY do so. Your default play here should be to fold weak suited connectors and reraise strong ones.

8.同花连牌。在“Filters…”下,改变“Type of Hole Cards”为“Suited Connectors”,我玩同花连牌比口袋对子要少一些,但是有些人很喜欢玩它。作为结论而言,我无法提供这种牌的VPIP和PFR应该是多少。但是,你的“BB/Hand”应该是正的;如果不是的话,你用同花连牌打的并不好。记住:这种牌在多人彩池、没人加注的彩池和偷盲注时玩最好。在“Filter”里,把“Vol. Put $ In Pot”改成“Cold Called”。在按下OK后,你应该几乎没有条目能查看。在你用这种牌去冷跟注的时候,你需要拿出一个详细的理由来说明每次你这么干的时候道理。回顾一下同花连牌的历史牌局,如果你拿不出冷跟注,而不是加注或弃牌的理由的话,你需要重新思考一下同花连牌策略了。好的解释有:加注很小,对手在翻牌后打法被动,对于对手而言我有位置,对手和我都是深筹码,对手在preflop的攻击性没有可信性,我的同花连牌足够强了,在我之前有好几个冷跟注了,等等。我并没有说,你应该从来不用同花连牌去冷跟注;但是,我的意思是你不应该每次都冷跟注。你默认的行为应该是,小同花连牌弃牌,大同花连牌加注。
9. Unsuited connectors. Clear the filter and then go back into it. Change “Type of Hole Cards” to “Off-Suited Connectors.” Your VPIP for these hands should be noticeably smaller than your VPIP for suited connectors. Check your winrate and make sure it’s positive. Filter for cold-calling and see if you had good reasons for doing so, keeping in mind that the reasons need to be even stronger than for suited connectors.

9.非同花连牌。清除“Filter”,再进入“Filter”。
0 _5 A2 f7 n3 g% |1 d! f8 ^改变“Type of Hole Cards”为“Off-Suited Connectors”。你这种牌的VPIP应该明显小于你的同花连牌的VPIP。检查你的赢率,确保是正的。设置“Filter”为冷跟注,看一下你是否有足够的好理由这么做,记住你需要的理由要比同花连牌更充分。


  T/ c$ z& G5 A/ [+ [* s9 S10. Postflop aggression. Clear the filter. Select the “More Detail…” button above the “Filters…” button. Scroll down. There is a section marked “First Action on Flop After A Pre-flop Raise.” This shows your likelihood of continuation betting. If you add Bet and Raise, the total should be at least 40%. If it’s not, you’re probably giving up too soon on your good hands, and that will cost you money in the long run. Remember: people who cold-call a preflop bet are often in fit-or-fold mode. If you don’t bet, you don’t give them a chance to fold. The pot is already decent-sized, and there’s no reason to give some donk a free look at a turn card that could sink you. If you raised preflop, you need a good reason NOT to raise the flop. Continuation betting should be your default play. Scroll down a bit farther to “Aggression Factor.” Your total aggression factor should be at LEAST 2. No-limit is not a game where you can call frequently and turn a profit. You should always be looking to see if you can raise or fold; only if you have a good reason why you CANNOT raise or fold should you call. As a result, calling should be an infrequent occurrence in your play, which gives you a large aggression factor.

10.翻牌后的攻击性。清除“Filter”。选择在“Filter…”按钮上的“More Detail…”按钮。往下拉。有一章“First Action on Flop After A Pre-flop Raise”。这显示了你继续下注的可能性。考虑到你下注和加注,总值应该大于40%。如果不是的话,你可能过早放弃了你的好牌,这从长远来看会让你浪费你的钱。记住:在pre-flop冷跟注的玩家,常常采用的是“没配成牌就弃牌”的策略。如果你不下注,你就没有给他们一个弃牌的机会。彩池大小很合适,并且没有理由给donk看免费的转牌来打败你。如果你在preflop加注的话,你需要一个好理由来在flop不加注。继续下注应该是你的默认行为。在往下拉一点到“Aggression Factor”,你的总攻击性应该不小于2.无限德州不是一个你通过频繁的跟注能获利的游戏。你应该总是注意去想你应该加注还是弃牌;只有当你有好理由,你不能加注,也不能弃牌时,才能跟注。总之,你应该少跟注,来增加你的攻击性。
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 楼主| long23th 发表于 2010-9-25 11:01:30 | 只看该作者
11. Check-raising. Some people never check-raise; others check-raise infrequently. I personally like to check-raise at least once in awhile; 1% would be fine, 0.5% would be acceptable. The goal of the check-raise is to remind your opponents that just because you checked does NOT mean that you don’t have a hand. However, circumstances need to be very specific for a check-raise to be appropriate. Typically, I check-raise on the flop when OOP against a preflop raiser, or on the turn when OOP against a flop bettor/raiser who was clearly not on a draw (uncoordinated flop). If you are check raising much more than 2% of the time, you’re being entirely too tricky for a SSNL table, and straightforward play would probably be more profitable for you.

11.check-raiseing。有些人从来不check-raise;另一些很少check-raise。我个人喜欢一会就check-raise一次;1%就不错;0.5%也能接受。我们的目标是通过check-raise来提醒你的对手,你选择check不代表你没有牌。然而,根据形势适当提高check-raise。通常,我会在没有位置的时候,采用check-raise来对付在preflop加注的人,或者在turn上,没有位置时,用check-raise来对付在flop下注或加注的人(他很明显没有抽牌,翻牌没有抽牌的可能性)。如果你的check-raise大于2%时,对于SSNL的坐姿而言你太狡猾了,而直打可能更有利可图
All of this is just an introduction to the kinds of self-analysis you can/should do with Poker Tracker statistics. Notice how much more in-depth it is than just glancing at a few VPIP numbers. Typically, the only person who can truly do a “check-up” on your playing style and ability is YOU. As always, if in your searching you find hands that indicate you may have a flaw in your poker reasoning, post them up (one at a time, of course). Tell us the problem you are worried you might have, and why you think this hand might indicate the problem. Then, open the discussion up to see if 2+2ers agree or disagree.

上面的内容只是一个关于你可以利用Poker Tracker的统计来自我分析的初步的介绍。注意,它比只提到VPIP数字要更深入。通常情况下,唯一一个具备检查你的打法风格的人,就是你自己。如果你检查了你的历史牌局,发现了你的缺点,发上来(一次一个)。告诉我们你担心的缺点,和为什么你认为这手牌暴露了你的这个缺点。发起一个讨论,看看同意与否。
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 楼主| long23th 发表于 2010-9-25 11:02:23 | 只看该作者
我的缺点  放弃不了 大牌    总是幻想别人牌比我小  

怎么克服  谁教下
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fhtxn 发表于 2010-9-25 14:26:26 | 只看该作者
比较细致地解读PT3
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soloist_huaxin 发表于 2010-9-25 14:29:51 | 只看该作者
神作...多谢分享!
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独孤飘云 发表于 2010-9-25 15:51:39 | 只看该作者
mark一下
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runyutong 发表于 2010-9-25 16:43:34 | 只看该作者
谢谢分享!!
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