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0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-5 08:25:11 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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---MTT之旅
     周六是我的比赛日,初步计划。
比赛地点;PS
比赛类型;3.3+R,11+R的MTT。
比赛费用;4个MTT双倍买入,加最后的买入。估计最大投入(3.3+3+3)×2+(11+10+10)×2=80.6(刀)。
比赛时间;周六凌晨2;15开始3.3+R,4;00的11+R。如果都在8;00前挂了,就开始玩8;00的3.3+R和10;00的11+R的比赛。
2009-7-4
最近几天反复的琢磨邱前辈对比赛的看法,感觉自己在似懂非懂之间,以下是我在比赛中遇到的问题,请大家指教。
一,        我在比赛中前期,筹码一直领先,有时候就放弃了抢盲注,边缘牌,我感觉自己减少了攻击性,放弃了很多机会,德州扑克是不是要不断的攻击?我对放弃和进攻在似懂非懂之间,基础上想到放弃就忘记了进攻,顾此失彼,看样自己的修炼差远了。
二,        我的比赛转折点牌局如下;
PokerStars Game #30076546380: Tournament #175253344, $3.00+$0.30 Hold\'em No Limit - Level XXXVI (17500/35000) - 2009/07/04 14:16:04 CCT [2009/07/04 2:16:04 ET]
Table \'175253344 328\' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: CuCu9999 (322719 in chips)
Seat 2: doc_all_in69 (753345 in chips)
Seat 3: Nick123 (1996779 in chips)
Seat 4: stud91124 (804166 in chips)
Seat 5: nemligjaja (431472 in chips)
Seat 6: NeOReSpOnSe (1010700 in chips)
Seat 7: serbe14 (641814 in chips)
Seat 9: 0532gszy (506836 in chips)
CuCu9999: posts the ante 4375
doc_all_in69: posts the ante 4375
Nick123: posts the ante 4375
stud91124: posts the ante 4375
nemligjaja: posts the ante 4375
NeOReSpOnSe: posts the ante 4375
serbe14: posts the ante 4375
0532gszy: posts the ante 4375
stud91124: posts small blind 17500
nemligjaja: posts big blind 35000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 0532gszy [7c 7s]
NeOReSpOnSe: folds
serbe14: folds
0532gszy: raises 35000 to 70000
CuCu9999: folds
doc_all_in69: folds
Nick123: folds
stud91124: folds
nemligjaja: raises 357097 to 427097 and is all-in
0532gszy: calls 357097
*** FLOP *** [9h As Qs]
*** TURN *** [9h As Qs] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [9h As Qs 8d] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nemligjaja: shows [Qh Kc] (a pair of Queens)
0532gszy: shows [7c 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
nemligjaja collected 906694 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 906694 | Rake 0
Board [9h As Qs 8d 3s]
Seat 1: CuCu9999 folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 2: doc_all_in69 folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 3: Nick123 (button) folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 4: stud91124 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: nemligjaja (big blind) showed [Qh Kc] and won (906694) with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: NeOReSpOnSe folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 7: serbe14 folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 9: 0532gszy showed [7c 7s] and lost with a pair of Seven
比赛概括;
这是6832人的比赛,现在已36人,我战斗了12小时,拿到77很矛盾,我的筹码现在不是必须冒险的时候,但77不错,不想放弃,在矛盾中就 加注2BB,入场,对方ALLIN,就下意识的跟进,我是非常喜欢ALLIN的,这之后,我基本傻瓜了,最后就在30名上出局。我现在回头想行,77是可以放弃的,不知道这手牌有什么毛病?望大家指教。
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youngtercel 发表于 2009-7-5 10:18:36 | 只看该作者

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如果77可以放手,那么TT,JJ呢?

If you just get JJ and be beaten by KQ,you will say it is just a flip coin beat
and if you don't like flip coin, you can not win at MTT.

Another point, Why BB dare to Re-raise your double blind with KQo? what do you think he have before you call the all in?
If you feel he is not holding high pair, that is correct call.  Nothing to do the the result.

Maybe your raise pattern make him think you won't have AK or AQ, (in that case you may raise more), so he fell pretty safe that he is not underdog too much for what ever else you have.

or a mini-raise seems like a typical blind-stealing, so he want to defend?

or he is just angry being raised by SB at BB?

or he is just donkey or desperate to looking for a double-up.

Before you play 5000 ppl MTT, try to flip coins, and try to get a 6-time continuous face up.  see how hard is it.
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-5 18:14:38 | 只看该作者

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哥们,我不懂英文。能中文么?
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monox 发表于 2009-7-5 19:56:36 | 只看该作者

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If you just get JJ and be beaten by KQ,you will say it is just a flip coin beat
and if you don't like flip coin, you can not win at MTT.
如果你拿到JJ被KQ击败,那么你会说这只是一次“抛硬币”失败( 50-50的beat)
而如果你不喜欢这种抛硬币式的博弈,那么你不可能赢MTT(多桌竞标赛)。
Another point, Why BB dare to Re-raise your double blind with KQo? what do you think he have before you call the all in?
If you feel he is not holding high pair, that is correct call. Nothing to do the the result.
另外一点,为什么BB敢用KQ异色再加注你的双倍盲注加注?在你call(跟注)他的all in(全押) 之前你想过他有什么牌吗?
Maybe your raise pattern make him think you won't have AK or AQ, (in that case you may raise more), so he fell pretty safe that he is not underdog too much for what ever else you have.
也许你的raise(加注) 模式让他觉得你不可能有AK 或者AQ (否则你会加更多注)所以他觉得很安全因为以其他你可能持有的牌来说,他不会在非常大的一个劣势(underdog)。
or a mini-raise seems like a typical blind-stealing, so he want to defend?
亦或一个迷你加注看上去很像一个典型的偷盲注手法,所以他想要防守(盲注)
or he is just angry being raised by SB at BB?
亦或他对给小盲注(SB)或者大盲注(BB)加注(raise)感觉很生气 ?
or he is just donkey or desperate to looking for a double-up.
亦或他就是一头倔驴(donkey) 或者处在绝望的边境试图要翻倍自己的筹码(double-up)?

Before you play 5000 ppl MTT, try to flip coins, and try to get a 6-time continuous face up. see how hard is it.
在你玩5000人规模的MTT(多桌竞标赛)之前,试试真的抛硬币游戏,试着连续六次人头面朝上,看一下这有多难。
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-5 23:44:40 | 只看该作者

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谢谢兄弟用中文回复!我经常玩5000人规模的MTT游戏,对抛硬币的游戏有点了解,也知道运气在MTT里的重要性,也就是这样充满不去确定性的游戏,才吸引我玩扑克的,我玩牌,尽量放弃50;50的机会,虽然我的运气不是很差,但我尽量避免抛硬币,看到邱前辈对比赛的论述,真的很有感触,现在是似懂非懂之间,如何把握进攻与防守?我想这可能是MTT的要点,常玩MTT的人都不缺少勇气,在此之前,我的AA被KK干掉,AJ对A5也被干掉,其实我对被BB,很平常了,但变化与平衡,进攻与防守我真的拿捏不准。 谢谢youngtercel的回复。
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gogogo 发表于 2009-7-6 14:54:20 | 只看该作者

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当你打算用2BB偷盲,那意味着如果遭到反抗你必须能flop你手上的牌,如果遭到反抗你不打算flop,那不如不要用2BB偷盲,可正常加注到4BB或者提前allin
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-7 05:58:54 | 只看该作者

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gogogo兄说的太对了,我拿77很矛盾,想偷,位置不是很好,丢掉可惜,别人ALLIN,我又下意识跟进,这是最失败的一手牌,完全的没思想的被动跟进,其实输了,无所谓,我们玩牌天天就是输赢,但这样的输,真窝囊。
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blugger 发表于 2009-7-7 18:55:29 | 只看该作者

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个人觉得:77前面位置加注到85000~90000之间比较合适,遇到reraise,由于你筹码不是特别的多,建议放弃。
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monox 发表于 2009-7-8 00:25:41 | 只看该作者

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77 是一手可以all in 的牌(后期) 但绝对不是一手值得call all in的牌。
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loyaltiest 发表于 2009-7-8 15:34:07 | 只看该作者

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77 是一手可以all in 的牌(后期) 但绝对不是一手值得call all in的牌。
同意!并不是每个人都能像Estigate一样,用66把AQ洗白。
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