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鱼的迷茫

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wmwmw 发表于 2009-7-2 20:56:39 | 只看该作者

鱼的迷茫

第二手fold的时机不当.
我要是fold,会在preflop,如果preflop没有fold,flop也不会fold.
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wmwmw 发表于 2009-7-2 21:04:54 | 只看该作者

鱼的迷茫

第三手,应该在river allin.
因为board上有straight,triple的可能.
对手如果有straight这么强的牌,river必然bet很大.
对手的river bet too weak,实际上告诉你,他顾忌你中了straight.
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windstormm 发表于 2009-7-2 23:11:14 | 只看该作者

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play your game the right way, don't let losing discourage you.
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monox 发表于 2009-7-3 03:59:20 | 只看该作者

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的确阿,有时候是你一段时间的心情影响了发挥,休息一下状态也回来了。

还有我不是什么高手,你能从0到2000,充分证明了你的才能,大家共勉。
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-3 05:22:07 | 只看该作者

鱼的迷茫

我太感谢大家的指教!没想到天下好人真多,我玩现金不到1万手,对扑克是刚接触,我是看了一些资料,就跟着学习,比如看到怎么样诈唬,就跟着学习,这时候就认为谁都在诈唬,现在想想就搞笑,教材上说定对顶角是中等强度牌,不值得ALLIN,我经常就忘记了,认为别人加注是诈唬,我最大,现在想想自己真好笑,给大家添乐了,
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-3 06:02:40 | 只看该作者

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wmwmw 十分感谢!
action=牌力,仍然是判断对手牌力的主要依据.这句话太对了,我怎么就没想到呀!我想可能自己心胸狭隘,自己诈唬,就认为别人也诈唬,你这一句话点醒梦中人了。
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建设2008 发表于 2009-7-3 19:35:00 | 只看该作者

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老实说,进城以后,我一直感觉到这里的气氛非常好,
大家讨论技术,评论牌局让我们这些后打牌的人受益匪浅,我每天必经城中数次!
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2009-7-9 19:06:49 | 只看该作者

鱼的迷茫

如何能丢掉AA?
$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
MP3 = ($26.10)
CO = ($5.15)
BU = ($22.00)
SB(Hero) = ($25.30)
BB = ($21.35)
UTG2 = ($25.00)
MP1 = ($38.35)
MP2 = ($26.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A .
3 folds, MP3 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, BB folds, MP3 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($5.25) Q , 9 , T  (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP3 raises to $8, Hero raises to $22.8(All-In), MP3 calls $14.80.

Turn: ($50.85) 8  (2 players)

River: ($50.85) 4  (2 players)

Final Pot: $50.85.
我最近拿到AA,KK,被BB的次数很多,我在翻牌圈的时候,就分析,对家可能是底对QQ,TT

我就加注试试,对手再加注,我就基本断定他是3条,我看看自己的筹码是19刀多点,就很无奈的跟进了,我是不是太顺利,拿钱不当钱了,也许我慢是主要的原因,我能感觉到,自己太顺利的时候,基本就开始输了,真的想有能力放弃AA,我现在做不到。
慢打AQ的悲惨下场
最近AQ是我输钱最多的起手牌,我见到AQ,就怕了。
$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
MP2 = ($28.75)
MP3 = ($25.00)
CO = ($22.20)
BU = ($23.90)
SB = ($40.00)
BB = ($10.00)
UTG2(Hero) = ($25.00)
MP1 = ($23.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with Q , A .
Hero calls $0.25, 5 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) Q , Q , T  (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($0.75) 8  (3 players)
SB bets $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $24.75(All-In), SB folds, BB calls $7.50(All-In).

River: ($36.00) 3  (2 players)

Final Pot: $36.00.
________________________________________
Results follow:

Hero shows three of a kind, queens (Q  A )
BB shows a straight, queen high (J  9 )

BB wins with a straight, queen high (J  9 ).
我在UTG位置,平进,翻牌圈看到三条,我就很矛盾,有同花的可能,没看那到顺子的可能,想如果加注他们就跑了,让他们再看张牌,结果就是悲惨的故事发生,我总结第一不能怕什么牌,那是没道理的,该加注的牌一定加注,对公共牌一定要看仔细,不能因为自己的牌好,就想当然的认为对手不可能是什么牌,这是我经常犯的错误,望大家指点。
19#
chapstick 发表于 2009-7-14 08:00:13 | 只看该作者

鱼的迷茫

不错,我也学到点东西!
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windstormm 发表于 2009-7-16 00:06:09 | 只看该作者

鱼的迷茫

From the hand, i can tell that you are a very agressive player. It probably wins you a lot of $$ for catching donkeys but when the other players are decent players it won't pay you off.
First hand after flop, MP3 reraised you with a very drawy flop (trip sets or made straight possibily, even 2 pair is better than your hand). What you have is really only an overpair (overpair is still only a pair). To go all in, you are betting on your opponents on a bluff or a semi bluff. A decent player will lay down with this hand unless they have a better hand. I think you probably should lay this hand down after the reraise or call and check on the turn to keep the pot small for the showdown value of your hand.

The second hand is the same. You have a decent hand, but BB reraised on that board with possible (straight and full house already made). your hand is very good for show down value, but not good enough for all in. If your opponents is good player he knows you have a Q at least, again they would lay it down unless they have a better hand (straight or full house).  they might call with KQ or JQ, but probably would fold even with a smaller kicker. I would suggest to call after turn and call again after river depending on the bet size to keep the pot relatively small for a showdown.

I have seen a lot of player go all in with good hand on show down value hoping to get pay off. but more than often, this move will only get called by a better hand. This might only work if you have a very loose table image and your opponents are putting you on a bluff. I would never go all in first with these two hand if i sense any strenghth from your opponents' hand

Just my 2 cents.
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