有人知道些内幕吗？Chinese Cheating at Poker Stars

Chinese Cheating at Poker Stars

A large scale Chinese cheating ring has been discovered operating at the PokerStars' $52 through $108 Double or Nothing sit & gos from the summer of 2009 until February 2010. PokerStars have already agreed to pay $587,000 compensation to those players affected by collusion.


Things started to unfold in public when the user Jane0123 appeared on the 2+2 forum complaining that his account on PokerStars had been unfairly frozen with $10,000 in it. Jane0123 got an icy reception, one user responding, "Ya finally got busted huh? Well it's about time. I sent about 25 emails complaining about you ****ing clowns." Jane0123's Sharkscope data showed that he had played 11,766 DoN's with an average stake of $87 and a profit of $56,300.

It soon became apparent that many of the suspected cheaters dominated the DoN Leaderboard on PokerStars. The nickname wudiyg was the site's biggest winner at DoN games in 2009 with a profit of $96,000.

The total sum won by the suspected ring is somewhere around $750,000. Often half of the players in any given game have been part of the ring, most of them coming from the Chinese town of Hangzhou. Several dozens of players are involved.

Users on 2+2 accuse PokerStars of not acting as decisively as they could have in investigating the cheating. However, the company have started paying compensation to affected players. Approximately $85,000 in cash or FPP have been confiscated from the cheaters, but since the total sum to be paid is $587,000 at this point, it's obvious PokerStars will have to pay most of it themselves.

Many players are not happy with the compensation promised or already paid to them. The user Simplicity8 says, "I've played about 7000 $52-$108 dons in the first 6 weeks of 2010. I kind of felt like something was up, but I assumed I was a losing player and just gave up. If true, this makes me pretty sick as they have not only just stolen money from me, but they have taken away future earning power from me. I was on a pretty nice pace to hit SNE (Supernova Elite)."

According to some calculations, the cheaters have generated $600,000 rake to PokerStars. While users on 2+2 admit that DoN's are an easy target for colluders and such collusion can be difficult to detect, others say that the cheating happened on such a scale and duration that PokerStars' security should have put their sensors up much sooner.

Investigation is still ongoing, but many suspect that so is the cheating possibly by another group of Chinese players. In recent weeks a lot of players from the Wenzhou area in China have joined the $52 through $108 DoN's on the site.

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Things started to unfold in public when the user Jane0123 appeared on the 2+2 forum complaining that his account on PokerStars had been unfairly frozen with $10,000 in it. Jane0123 got an icy reception, one user responding, "Ya finally got busted huh? Well it's about time. I sent about 25 emails complaining about you ****ing clowns." Jane0123's Sharkscope data showed that he had played 11,766 DoN's with an average stake of $87 and a profit of $56,300.
mirkorocky 发表于 2010-8-6 00:56

如果没记错的话，这段的事儿在2+2和另外一个中文论坛里贴出过，印象里Jane0123好像还是个MM呢，她跟了许多贴来着。后来忘记继续关注这事的动向了～～～DON很容易作弊么，怎么作弊呀？从来没打过。

如果没记错的话，这段的事儿在2+2和另外一个中文论坛里贴出过，印象里Jane0123好像还是个MM呢，她跟了许 ...
FreeFree 发表于 2010-8-6 08:26

    Don的话因为没有奖金差别，获奖名次又比传统SNG多，有点类似Satellite的打法。所以在bubble和准bubble时期，如果有2~3个人合伙的话那优势是特别巨大的。我只举两个例子：
1，A和B两人串谋，A在chip leader，B是short stack，只要两个人的位置很近（一般来说也不会太远，如果只有6人的情况，两个人的相对距离最远也就是3，中间隔着2个人，基本上chip leader可以用各种方式把筹码倒给short stack，最后两个人都熬过bubble，顺利拿钱。。）
2，还是A和B，A有大牌，B也是大牌，这个时候两个人就可以通过商量来制定打法，至少俩个人不会火拼，如果能夹住一个人就更好，做得好的话根本留不下什么痕迹，这个就是传说中的sandwich。。

如果配合好的话我觉得2个人其实优势要比3个人还大一些，因为考虑到3个人的buyin成本是2个人的1.5倍，但是实际上10人DON的话只有5个名额，只是3个人的风险能小一点而已。

Don的话因为没有奖金差别，获奖名次又比传统SNG多，有点类似Satellite的打法。所以在bubble和准bubb ...
darkillermax 发表于 2010-8-6 09:33

其实这种是非常简单的“作弊”，我很早之前就设想过这种方法，仔细想过以后发现只有 DON 2人配合才具有一定的可操作性，没什么意思。资金实力不够雄厚的话也容易留下马脚或者被封，还是算了吧。

我天朝人才辈出啊！！！

差不多两个月前说那件？？？

还好不打don  。现在don难混了

看不懂！

这就是我以前提过城里的周赛采用平分钱圈方法，容易产生作弊的原因。