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又是一手AA，这手牌应该弃吧？
FLOP对手反加到1后，我是否太猛了，是继续RAISE，还是CALL/FOLD？

问题手四 ...
flyerkite 发表于 2010-7-7 17:13

这种牌对手反加到1，对于low stake来说，可能90%是有trips，10%是pure bluff
看对手FLop上的C/R比例以及AF，如果都特别高，或者你可以call，然后看turn上他如果行动
一般如果对手C/R，AF都很高，flop出了pair，我会check back，一方面control pot；另一方面给一张免费牌也没什么大不了的

谢谢muyir版主细心指导
今天FTP连不上，郁闷啊

这手感觉自己打得太过激进了，TURN那么打主观意识太强，很容易惨败，很大家指点
问题手5
Full Tilt Poker Game #22257542006: Table Celerity (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 9:31:06 ET - 2010/07/12
Seat 1: anaditek ($11.76)
Seat 2: Jeremy Silva ($15.82)
Seat 3: darpiseck ($11.09)
Seat 4: DoGo6666 ($33.56)
Seat 5: flyerkite ($7.09)
Seat 6: IBRIDUS ($6.43)
Jeremy Silva posts the small blind of $0.05
darpiseck posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flyerkite [Kc 8d 7s Ks]
DoGo6666 has 8 seconds left to act
DoGo6666 folds
flyerkite calls $0.10
IBRIDUS folds
anaditek folds
Jeremy Silva raises to $0.40
darpiseck folds
flyerkite calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [7d 8h 4h]
Jeremy Silva bets $0.90
flyerkite raises to $2
Jeremy Silva calls $1.10
*** TURN *** [7d 8h 4h] [Ad]
Jeremy Silva checks
flyerkite bets $4.69, and is all in
Jeremy Silva has 15 seconds left to act
Jeremy Silva calls $4.69
flyerkite shows [Kc 8d 7s Ks]
Jeremy Silva shows [Js Tc 7h 9c]
*** RIVER *** [7d 8h 4h Ad] [4d]
flyerkite shows two pair, Kings and Fours
Jeremy Silva shows two pair, Sevens and Fours
flyerkite wins the pot ($13.33) with two pair, Kings and Fours
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.28 | Rake $0.95
Board: [7d 8h 4h Ad 4d]
Seat 1: anaditek (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Jeremy Silva (small blind) showed [Js Tc 7h 9c] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 3: darpiseck (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: DoGo6666 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: flyerkite showed [Kc 8d 7s Ks] and won ($13.33) with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 6: IBRIDUS didn't bet (folded)

很荣幸，楼上在本论坛的第一贴就是回复我的贴子
PLO，pot limit omaha,底池限注奥马哈扑克

问题手6
输得很惨，转牌我是不是也应该CHECK？
PokerStars Game #46702439443:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/07/13 2:19:21 ET
Table 'Scania' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: lex2021 ($13.25 in chips)
Seat 2: killa5s ($16.57 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerstar977 ($5.67 in chips)
Seat 5: xiaolin888 ($5.98 in chips)
Seat 6: muck24 ($5.61 in chips)
lex2021: posts small blind $0.02
killa5s: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xiaolin888 [Qc 7s Td Th]
DKdeuces22 leaves the table
pokerstar977: calls $0.05
xiaolin888: calls $0.05
muck24: folds
pokerstar977 said, "haha hat aways fun"
killa5s said, "there goes the dead money lol"
lex2021: raises $0.20 to $0.25
killa5s: calls $0.20
pokerstar977: calls $0.20
xiaolin888: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [Kc Js 5h]
lex2021: bets $0.95
killa5s: calls $0.95
pokerstar977: folds
xiaolin888: calls $0.95
*** TURN *** [Kc Js 5h] [9h]
lex2021: checks
killa5s: checks
xiaolin888: bets $3.65
lex2021: folds
killa5s: raises $3.65 to $7.30
xiaolin888: calls $1.13 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2.52) returned to killa5s
*** RIVER *** [Kc Js 5h 9h] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
killa5s: shows [Jc 5c Jh 7h] (a full house, Jacks full of Kings)
xiaolin888: shows [Qc 7s Td Th] (a straight, Nine to King)
killa5s said, "bingo"
killa5s collected $12.75 from pot
pokerstar977 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.41 | Rake $0.66
Board [Kc Js 5h 9h Kd]
Seat 1: lex2021 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: killa5s (big blind) showed [Jc 5c Jh 7h] and won ($12.75) with a full house, Jacks full of Kings
Seat 3: pokerstar977 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: xiaolin888 showed [Qc 7s Td Th] and lost with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 6: muck24 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

问题手6
输得很惨，转牌我是不是也应该CHECK？
PokerStars Game #46702439443:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0 ...
flyerkite 发表于 2010-7-13 15:35

当然turn上shove。river出什么跟你做的决定的正确性无关、

小盲能有机会跟半注看下翻牌，当然不会是什么错误啦，问题是一般会打一点的都会加注吧，小盲就比较为难了，没什么像样的牌还是弃了吧。

问题手7
感觉应该没打错吧，大家给指导一下
PokerStars Game #47202670499:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/07/24 11:43:45 ET
Table 'Phyleus V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Gordon1986 ($5.23 in chips)
Seat 2: mamaxtreme ($3.35 in chips)
Seat 3: LaFeeNoir ($8.44 in chips)
Seat 4: Alistair88 ($5.37 in chips)
Seat 5: Masquerade66 ($7.97 in chips)
Seat 6: xiaolin888 ($7.74 in chips)
Masquerade66: posts small blind $0.02
xiaolin888: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xiaolin888 [As 2c Jh Ac]
Gordon1986: raises $0.10 to $0.15
mamaxtreme: calls $0.15
LaFeeNoir: folds
Alistair88: calls $0.15
Masquerade66: calls $0.13
xiaolin888: raises $0.75 to $0.90
Gordon1986: calls $0.75
mamaxtreme: calls $0.75
Alistair88: folds
Masquerade66: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [5c 9s 8c]
Masquerade66: bets $3.57
xiaolin888: raises $3.27 to $6.84 and is all-in
Gordon1986: calls $4.33 and is all-in
mamaxtreme: folds
Masquerade66: calls $3.27
*** TURN *** [5c 9s 8c] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [5c 9s 8c Ah] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Masquerade66: shows [Th Qd 9h Jc] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
xiaolin888: shows [As 2c Jh Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
Masquerade66 collected $4.77 from side pot
Gordon1986: shows [7d 6h 4d 8h] (a straight, Five to Nine)
Masquerade66 collected $15.92 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.76 Main pot $15.92. Side pot $4.77. | Rake $1.07
Board [5c 9s 8c Ah Jd]
Seat 1: Gordon1986 showed [7d 6h 4d 8h] and lost with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 2: mamaxtreme folded on the Flop
Seat 3: LaFeeNoir folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Alistair88 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Masquerade66 (small blind) showed [Th Qd 9h Jc] and won ($20.69) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 6: xiaolin888 (big blind) showed [As 2c Jh Ac] and lost with three of a kind, Aces

preflop和flop都值得商榷，问题都不是很大
如果AAJ2是适合单挑，而不是群挑；如果AATJ，那么两者都适合。所以你在BB位，得考虑3bet是否能够缩小对手数量。如果进pot的人不会fold给你3bet，我建议你snap call或者light 3bet。因为一方面你AAJ2不是足够强，另一方面你位置不好
Flop是made straight board，这么多人在pot里，基本肯定有人成顺。但是你有nut flush draw，即使有人成顺，你理论上最多有7个outs，也就是1：2的赔率，处于落后的情况。我觉得flop你call可能更好一点，这样可以吸引更多的对手进pot，如果有两个对手，1：2就值得进了。你如果领先，应该raise；现在你已经落后了，当然希望人越多越好，这样1：2也值得进