PLO学习贴

近来一直在玩PLO，
初入此道，还在小额桌上努力学习，
受jimmy和muyir贴子的启发，
也开个学习系列贴，记录自己的学习历程，
欢迎大家拍砖！

因为在这方面是新手，所以按rich zhu城主的建议：从九人桌打起，低买入，浅筹码
在PS0.02/0.05 PLO，准备50个BUY IN
看了大家的贴子，这种小级别PLO，抽水都得被抽成皮包骨
不指望赚钱，主要熟悉打法和相关知识

问题手1，
位置确实比较重要，对手老是在后面CALL，我心里都点寒了，还好他河底没有RAISE我，
这手牌是否打得有问题，请大家指教
PokerStars Game #46403618533:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/07/05 22:07:21 ET
Table 'Muliphein II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: DLiberator ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 3: thebamaman3 ($8.21 in chips)
Seat 4: dollastore ($4.02 in chips)
Seat 5: noahdog73 ($1.56 in chips)
Seat 6: Walther1966 ($4.31 in chips)
Seat 7: 我($3.93 in chips)
我: posts small blind $0.02
DLiberator: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 我 [4c Kd Ah 5c]
thebamaman3: folds
dollastore: folds
noahdog73: folds
Walther1966: calls $0.05
我: calls $0.03
DLiberator: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d As 8c]
我: bets $0.15
DLiberator: folds
Walther1966: calls $0.15
*** TURN *** [9d As 8c] [3h]
我: bets $0.43
Walther1966: calls $0.43
*** RIVER *** [9d As 8c 3h] [Ks]
我: bets $1.25
Walther1966: calls $1.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
我: shows [4c Kd Ah 5c] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Walther1966: shows [Tc Kc Kh 7c] (three of a kind, Kings)
Walther1966 collected $3.63 from pot

我偏紧
preflop 我会弃牌

我偏紧
preflop 我会弃牌
royalflush 发表于 2010-7-7 16:40

我总爱在小盲位跟半注看牌，不知道是不是新手的通病

白天九人桌很少，只能在六人桌练手了!

又是一种破产式的打法，感觉很有问题，
请大家给指导一下。

我的思路：我在UTG，位置不是很好，这牌在加注后也许可以仍了，但我还是跟进去了
          FLOP不错，最大的两对，可以听顺听葫芦，唯一担心的是否有人有SET，
            所以，King_Louie67 BET后，我反加，后面玩家依然CALL，我就有点怀疑了！
          TURN的打法应该是有问题的，希望大家指点。到了河牌只能说是运气了。
问题手2：
PokerStars Game #46452593631:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) -
2010/07/07 3:28:16 ET
Table 'Johanna V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 我 ($4.38 in chips)
Seat 2: 'I'he Game ($14.37 in chips)
Seat 3: AnKray ($10.59 in chips)
Seat 4: äss' ($5.86 in chips)
Seat 5: Matzejaeger ($4.83 in chips)
Seat 6: King_Louie67 ($5 in chips)
Matzejaeger: posts small blind $0.02
King_Louie67: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 我 [6s 8s 9d 7d]
我: calls $0.05
'I'he Game: folds
AnKray: calls $0.05
äss': folds
Matzejaeger: calls $0.03
King_Louie67: raises $0.20 to $0.25
我: calls $0.20
AnKray: calls $0.20
Matzejaeger: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [8c 9h 4s]
Matzejaeger: checks
King_Louie67: bets $0.45
我: raises $1.30 to $1.75
AnKray: calls $1.75
Matzejaeger: folds
King_Louie67: folds
*** TURN *** [8c 9h 4s] [Jh]
我: bets $2.38 and is all-in
AnKray: calls $2.38
*** RIVER *** [8c 9h 4s Jh] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
我: shows [6s 8s 9d 7d] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
AnKray: shows [Kh 8d 8h 5s] (three of a kind, Eights)

问题手1，
位置确实比较重要，对手老是在后面CALL，我心里都点寒了，还好他河底没有RAISE我，
这手牌是否打 ...
flyerkite 发表于 2010-7-6 16:12

没位置，一般这手牌最多打到flop，turn上我就会C/F，turn和river能帮助你的牌实在太少了

我现在打PLO几乎都是直上直下，很少BLUFF，也不慢打
PLO中可以慢打吗？
像这手牌，到了TURN，我是否可以慢打？

问题手三：
PokerStars Game #46452725651:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) -

2010/07/07 3:37:43 ET
Table 'Aidamina' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: AnKray ($6.06 in chips)
Seat 2: Myflon ($11.32 in chips)
Seat 3: trabuco13 ($4.03 in chips)
Seat 4: thesky001 ($5.59 in chips)
Seat 5: the5ive5 ($12.13 in chips)
Seat 6: xiaolin888 ($5.84 in chips)
the5ive5: posts small blind $0.02
xiaolin888: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xiaolin888 [Ac Ah 2c Qd]
AnKray: folds
Myflon: folds
trabuco13: folds
thesky001: raises $0.10 to $0.15
the5ive5: folds
Myflon leaves the table
xiaolin888: raises $0.32 to $0.47
thesky001: calls $0.32
*** FLOP *** [7c 4c Qh]
xl1z4rdx joins the table at seat #2
xiaolin888: bets $0.85
thesky001: calls $0.85
*** TURN *** [7c 4c Qh] [Kc]
xiaolin888: bets $1.25
thesky001: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.25) returned to xiaolin888
xiaolin888 collected $2.53 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.66 | Rake $0.13
Board [7c 4c Qh Kc]
Seat 1: AnKray folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Myflon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: trabuco13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: thesky001 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: the5ive5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: xiaolin888 (big blind) collected ($2.53)

又是一手AA，这手牌应该弃吧？
FLOP对手反加到1后，我是否太猛了，是继续RAISE，还是CALL/FOLD？

问题手四：
PokerStars Game #46452775592:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) -

2010/07/07 3:41:23 ET
Table 'Johanna V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: xiaolin888 ($9.27 in chips)
Seat 2: 'I'he Game ($14.37 in chips)
Seat 3: AnKray ($6.49 in chips)
Seat 4: donkbusterpl ($3.56 in chips)
Seat 5: Matzejaeger ($4.30 in chips)
AnKray: posts small blind $0.02
donkbusterpl: posts big blind $0.05
King_Louie67: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xiaolin888 [8c Ah Ac 9c]
Matzejaeger: folds
xiaolin888: raises $0.12 to $0.17
'I'he Game: calls $0.17
AnKray: folds
donkbusterpl: calls $0.12
*** FLOP *** [4s 4d Kc]
donkbusterpl: checks
xiaolin888: bets $0.50
'I'he Game: raises $0.50 to $1
donkbusterpl: folds
xiaolin888: raises $2.05 to $3.05
'I'he Game: raises $6.61 to $9.66
xiaolin888: folds
Uncalled bet ($6.61) returned to 'I'he Game
'I'he Game collected $6.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.63 | Rake $0.33
Board [4s 4d Kc]
Seat 1: xiaolin888 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: 'I'he Game (button) collected ($6.30)
Seat 3: AnKray (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: donkbusterpl (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Matzejaeger folded before Flop (didn't bet)

我现在打PLO几乎都是直上直下，很少BLUFF，也不慢打
PLO中可以慢打吗？
像这手牌，到了TURN，我是否可以慢 ...
flyerkite 发表于 2010-7-7 17:08

这种牌我是这么考虑的，看对手风格
如果对手不agg，基本我会继续bet turn，因为你check，对手也不会bet，等于你给他免费牌
如果对手是那种你一check，他就要偷的，而且一偷就很疯狂，我会C/C turn，C/R river；当然有可能直接C/R turn