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FTP扑克室是黑店么?

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德州新人 发表于 2010-4-21 11:06:01 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

感觉FTP是独断了,我现在基本上在PS打打了。
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2010-4-21 12:18:21 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

我玩扑克的钱都是很干净的从扑克上赚到,可以查看历史数据,我在想,今天是我倒霉,但事情背后说明,我们玩网络扑克谁来保护我的基本权利?如果我们的基本权利都不能保护,那我们还值得玩这样的游戏么?
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coolwings 发表于 2010-4-21 13:10:17 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

这个,它还真不是黑店~

在它的网站条款里面把各方面的情况都写到了,洋洋洒洒好几十页呢

虽然没人看,但是打起官司来就有用了,它是有没收你钱的权力的,而且这个权利是你给他的,你同意了的~

当然,你的情况算是被朋友连累,有点太严,不尽人情了~

move on吧~
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EP_Bob 发表于 2010-4-21 14:23:33 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

我也认同这个啊,博彩业在各个国家的法律规定都不同,打起官司来是很麻烦的一件事情。既然我们想从扑克室盈利,那么在玩牌以前熟悉扑克室的规则是很必须的。如果你熟读他们的规则,你就应该注意要避免不同账户在同个IP 登录,避免和朋友在一张现金桌子上对付其他玩家,避免如楼主提到因朋友涉嫌作弊而被连累的情况。 就好比你要上路开车,一定要先熟悉交通法规一样。


这个,它还真不是黑店~

在它的网站条款里面把各方面的情况都写到了,洋洋洒洒好几十页呢

虽然没人看,但是打起官司来就有用了,它是有没收你钱的权力的,而且这个权利是你给他的,你同意了的~

当然,你的情况算是被朋友连累,有点太严,不尽人情了~

move on吧~
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2010-4-21 14:40:58 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

FTP肯定有法律依据,我也是搞投资的,对这点很清楚,说起诉也是气话,但我如果真是做什么违规的事情,我认了,我止损一次都比那点钱多,现在是自己很冤枉!朱前辈说的对,也只能当给BB了,这里叨叨,给自己发泄下,也当反面教材了。
  网路扑克怎么感觉就不靠谱呀!大陆玩家,玩网络扑克,国家就禁止,是违法行为,到FTP也是鱼肉,没人保障我们的权利,给黑了,也就说说,不可能采取什么实际行动。为什么就没有组织网络扑克玩家维护自己权利的组织呀。也许网络玩家太另类了!
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RichZhu 发表于 2010-4-21 15:50:23 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

FTP肯定有法律依据,我也是搞投资的,对这点很清楚,说起诉也是气话,但我如果真是做什么违规的事情,我认了,我止损一次都比那点钱多,现在是自己很冤枉!朱前辈说的对,也只能当给BB了,这里叨叨,给自己发泄下,也当反面教材了。
  网路扑克怎么感觉就不靠谱呀!大陆玩家,玩网络扑克,国家就禁止,是违法行为,到FTP也是鱼肉,没人保障我们的权利,给黑了,也就说说,不可能采取什么实际行动。为什么就没有组织网络扑克玩家维护自己权利的组织呀。也许网络玩家太另类了!

能感觉出来这位朋友非常委屈,而且我也觉得他可能真的被冤枉了。

但是从另一方面讲,FTP不知道这样做可能冤枉人,可能会影响他们的形象和失去一些客户,对他们自己的生意有影响吗? FTP能做这么大不会不明白这一点的。可是它为什么这样做?其实也是没办法的办法。

建智游城以来,尤其是建返水吧后,我们也逐渐感到PS/FTP这样的大站确实在处理大陆玩家的时候非常强硬,很多时候甚至不讲道理。我个人觉得这不是对中国人本身的歧视,而是出于商业原因而不得不对特定群体的特殊政策。他们宁愿失去一部分无辜的玩家也不愿意采取一些比较温和/细致的做法,因为他们实在是耗不起。无论公司多大,其实资源都是有限的。

至于说为什么就没有组织网络扑克玩家维护自己权利的组织,谁愿意做啊?怎么做啊?不说别的,就说这智游城周赛,我们对新人一直是非常善意和宽容的。可是到现在,周赛举办了50次了,我们花了多少时间和精力在这上面,可是现在却到了不得不采取措施对新人控制,否则就办不下去的地步。很多“新人”不但破坏了周赛的初衷,让周赛失去意义,而且把论坛水得一塌糊涂。

说到底,你表面上是被FTP坑了,实质上你是被大陆玩家的整体声誉和行为坑了。FTP其实也是某些行为的受害者,可能你在气头上觉得我这话刺耳。 不管怎么说,遇到这样事情肯定郁闷。但是既然发生了,就让他过去吧。
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bedok 发表于 2010-4-21 16:15:48 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

不过账户里的钱既没有转走又没有输掉怎么会突然失踪呢?
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2010-4-21 18:26:13 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

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大家给看看,这是什么意思?
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 楼主| 0532gszy 发表于 2010-4-21 19:47:30 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

谢谢朱前辈的指教!
其实被黑了,也没办法,我最近玩STUD高低,很想请教朱前辈,我知道朱前辈是这类游戏的高手!希望能在智游城里看多你的精彩文章,我在领会你的那篇OMH08的文章,现在终于知道为什么要谨慎了,高低类的游戏很容易被翻转,我也在PS的16.5买入的高低OMH的MTT拿了个第一,很想拜读朱前辈的文章!
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meumi 发表于 2010-4-21 19:52:53 | 只看该作者

FTP扑克室是黑店么?

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