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Phil Galfond 拿 77 在 46KJA 且有三同花的面 跟三条街的重注,htt...

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Ander_AK 发表于 2014-5-8 23:37:07 | 只看该作者
shisfc0603 发表于 2014-5-8 10:07
你看一下PG自己的注释,他这个视频的讲解点就是when scare card is not a scare card.
turn J river A都看 ...

还记得我和你讨论过big game里的一手牌嘛? 算是对“when scare card is not a scare card”的反向利用。

Daniel 77,nakonano QQ,loose cannon open ,daniel call,nakonano 3-bet,loose cannon弃,daniel call。号称打算:check call flop,check call turn,check shove river。

然后FLOP J小小,turn 7,Rv A,nakonano 就bet flop,bet turn,然后很快速的重注 rv。river的那个bet其实level就很高,就是nakonano知道danile知道nakonano有能力利用A 这张scare card bluff,而且nakonano也知道danile有能力用2nd pair/3 rd pair抓bluff,所以他的QQ在这种spot下注还是可以有value的。





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starbit 发表于 2014-5-9 08:24:01 | 只看该作者
这还是要视对方的betting range来看的吧
如果对方知道你喜欢抓bluff 然后故意打一些很thin的value的话
这么抓就是行不通的

所以我觉得有时候bettingrange 都是polarized也不太好
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pan300at 发表于 2014-5-9 18:45:15 | 只看该作者
Ander_AK 发表于 2014-5-8 23:37
还记得我和你讨论过big game里的一手牌嘛? 算是对“when scare card is not a scare card”的反向利用。
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Daniel is very, very smart at poker. Daniel is not a loose style player.

Daniel called 3-bet at pre-folp, called flop and called again at turn. What do you think Daniel could have? Daniel could have AJ, triple(s), AA, AK or KK (more than pairs below Js). Daniel will not fold KK at River in this case. Daniel will most likely fold anything which can not beat J pairs. Daniel will most likely put nakonano's range at >=Ts or Ax when nakonano did 3-bet at pre-flop. nakonano's turn bet indicated he can beat Jk if this is not bluff. Even it was bluff at flop and at turn. Now he catched A pairs if he had AK, AQ or any AX.

Pretent bluff may looks like high lever play, but it is nothing new now. It is nothing new to Daniel at all.

Just think what Daniel could have?
and more important, think what Daniel thinks nakonano could have?

Also one needs thinking another lever when playing with Daniel: What if Daniel re-raise at river if Daniel thinks nakonano is bluff or Daniel indeed had triple(s) or Two pairs?

nakonano wil more like lose his river bet than getting his river value bet.
I will be more caution here. I will check at river in this situation.
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pan300at 发表于 2014-5-9 18:46:39 | 只看该作者
pan300at 发表于 2014-5-9 18:45
Daniel is very, very smart at poker. Daniel is not a loose style player.

Daniel called 3-bet at p ...


谷歌翻译:

丹尼尔是非常,非常聪明的扑克。丹尼尔是不是一个松散式的球员。

丹尼尔称为3 -bet的在预folp ,称为翻牌和转时再次调用。你觉得丹尼尔可以有?丹尼尔可能有欧塞尔,三(次) , AA , AK或KK (超过下面的js对) 。丹尼尔不会在这种情况下折叠KK在河。丹尼尔很可能会折什么不能战胜Ĵ对。丹尼尔将最有可能把nakonano的范围在> = T或斧头时nakonano做了3次下注在翻牌前。 nakonano的转牌下注表示,他可以击败JK如果这不是虚张声势。即使它是在虚张声势翻牌和转。现在,他钓到了一条对他是否有AK , AQ或任何AX 。

Pretent虚张声势可能看起来像高杠杆的发挥,但它不是什么新鲜事了。这是什么新的丹尼尔都没有。

试想但以理可能?
更重要的是,觉得丹尼尔认为nakonano可以有?

另外一个需要与丹尼尔玩的时候想着另一个杠杆:如果丹尼尔再筹集河流,如果丹尼尔认为nakonano是虚张声势还是丹尼尔确实有过三次(S)或两对是什么?

nakonano西港岛线更像是失去了河流的赌注比得到他的河流价值下注。

我会更加小心这里。我将检查在河在这种情况下。
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