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本帖最后由 maomaobiao 于 2013-9-12 10:41 编辑
oasisbj 发表于 2013-9-12 03:53
I sort of understand lz's question, look at these
"那么在捉牌的情况下打18 BB,不中的话不是送钱吗 ...
My apology of using English, which is the only input I have at work place.
1) Why the two over cards are excluded from V's outs? V's odds shall be greater than 36% on flop for sure. To me, it is a coinflip.
Say the effective stack is 85BB and preflop pot is ~30BB, after V leading 18BB H pushes back. V need ~52BB to win 118BB on flop, isn't it an easy decision for V? Happy call for V, why fold here? I suggest you study more basic pot odds than reading people/hands.
The relation between this one and your original question is, once you know why V leading 18BB, you would not think that 18BB was wastes of money. Thus, you will see why push back was the "best" desicion on flop, or shall I say "lest worst" desision. There still might be tiny little chance V would fold after you push back, you never know. Oh, and you never know V had AKs on flop for sure, with his 18bb leading bet. :p
2) V's 18BB was a great bet for this SPR. If deep, sure there are more than one way to trap/floating. And in deep stack, river desicion became more and more important. That's another topic.
3) 但是现场的时候经常是一念之差,而后面的出牌往往又经常会BB你,让你先前认为正确的打法全输,而你分析认为不对的打法歪打正着。扑克不就是这样的吗?
To me, no, poker is not like this. You can't use the result to throw-over your previous decision. A right desicion can lose money sometime. A bad desicion is a bad desicion, no matter how much money you earn with one perticular hand.
4) Like I said, the best decision on flop shall be push back, again imo.
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