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51#
修道 发表于 2014-7-28 00:04:47 | 只看该作者
对手是条疯鱼啊。
flop,对手跳出来打,下注尺寸还行,转牌下得太多了,拿着葫芦不怕把对手吓跑么,河牌超底池all,秒all秒call的节奏
52#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-4 09:40:10 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 fafafafefe 于 2014-8-4 09:44 编辑

i need 27% on the turn. i doubt he plays 33,66,99 this way. so give him a range of {AA, KK,QQ,AsKs,TT,A9} i have 25% equity, making this a slightly -EV call. i guess i should fold the turn no?




PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

BB ($271.36)
Hero (UTG) ($99.90)
Button ($92.50)
SB ($102)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($21) 3, 6, 9 (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($45) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $23, SB raises to $80 (All-In), Hero calls $54.90 (All-In)

River: ($200.80) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $200.80 | Rake: $2

Results below: [spoiler]
SB had 2, A (flush, Ace high).
Hero had J, J (two pair, Jacks and nines).
Outcome: SB won $198.80[/spoiler]














53#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-4 09:47:20 | 只看该作者
flop and turn is fine but should've fold the river. i've never seen ppl donk three times as a bluff....


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

MP ($83.15)
Hero (Button) ($94.35)
SB ($68.95)
BB ($100)
UTG ($171.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, 10
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2, 1 fold

Flop: ($6) 6, K, 10 (2 players)


SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($12) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($22) K (2 players)
SB bets $11, Hero calls $11

Total pot: $44 | Rake: $2

Results below: [spoiler]
Hero didn't show J, 10 (two pair, Kings and tens).
SB had Q, K (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: SB won $42[/spoiler]


54#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-4 09:49:38 | 只看该作者
try to represent the K and fail....... BTN had KT...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($66.30)
Hero (MP) ($112.85)
Button ($95.96)
SB ($175.45)
BB ($176.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, A
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $4, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($13.50) 6, 2, 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($13.50) K (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $8, Button calls $8, UTG calls $8

River: ($37.50) 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $37.50 | Rake: $1.85

Results below: [spoiler]
Button didn't show
UTG had 7, 6 (flush, eight high).
Hero didn't show Q, A (high card, Ace).
Outcome: UTG won $35.65[/spoiler]


55#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-4 10:00:07 | 只看该作者
villain's been crazy at the table so JJ is the nuts pre flop.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($75.45)
Hero (Button) ($42)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($89.94)
UTG ($50.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15.75, BB raises to $89.94 (All-In), Hero calls $26.25 (All-In)

Flop: ($85.75) 10, 9, A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($85.75) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($85.75) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $85.75 | Rake: $2

Results below: [spoiler]
Hero had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
BB had J, J (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: BB won $83.75[/spoiler]


56#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-4 12:16:58 | 只看该作者
at micro/small stakes it's not a big deal to get bluffed off a better hand. but it's much much worse to pay off with a worse hand.


57#
修道 发表于 2014-8-4 15:46:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 修道 于 2014-8-4 16:38 编辑
fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-4 09:40
i need 27% on the turn. i doubt he plays 33,66,99 this way. so give him a range of {AA, KK,QQ,AsKs,T ...


这手牌是四人短桌,你把对手的3bet范围想得太强了。
翻牌前的决策,估计你也没太多对手短桌的数据,或者即便有你也没在HM2上面设置。如果对手5bet 很紧,那么4bet and fold  to 5bet ;如果对手5bet很宽,直接4bet and call allin with JJ。
flop 正常;turn出了公对,你超强牌的范围很窄,因为你也不会那33之类的牌去call3bet吧,唯一的超强牌就是66,这里下注半个底池不好,更小一点,三分之一就够了,给河牌留出足够的空间去out paly对手,同时做好弃牌给对手的准备。
58#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-5 11:41:24 | 只看该作者
very dumb play on my part. i was trying to represent a bluff by betting the flop.. but i don't think ppl are thinking on that level at these stakes. should've chked back to either induce bluff or give his KK,QQ some room to breath...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

CO ($106.25)
Hero (Button) ($91.70)
SB ($103.20)
BB ($133.04)
UTG ($67.24)
MP ($26.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($21) 4, A, A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11, 1 fold

Total pot: $21 | Rake: $1.05

Results below: [spoiler]
Hero didn't show K, A.[/spoiler]


59#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-5 11:44:49 | 只看该作者
basically 4bet small trying to induce a shove from draws, turned out he has one of the best draws....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

CO ($96.90)
Button ($103.30)
SB ($99)
BB ($117.22)
UTG ($30)
Hero (MP) ($175.12)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, 10
UTG (poster) checks, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.50) 2, 10, J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB raises to $15.50, Hero raises to $44, BB raises to $113.22 (All-In), Hero calls $69.22

Turn: ($235.94) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($235.94) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $235.94 | Rake: $3

Results below: [spoiler]
BB had K, 2 (two pair, Jacks and twos).
Hero had J, 10 (full house, Jacks over tens).
Outcome: Hero won $232.94[/spoiler]


60#
 楼主| fafafafefe 发表于 2014-8-5 11:54:45 | 只看该作者
修道 发表于 2014-8-4 15:46
这手牌是四人短桌,你把对手的3bet范围想得太强了。
翻牌前的决策,估计你也没太多对手短桌的数据,或者 ...

我才上桌没多久,和对手没有交战历史。也没有HUD

如果我4bet JJ的话肯定不会fold给5bet。除非有特殊的阅读(比如55楼那手牌),这个级别上我一般默认对手5bet=nuts。这也是我没有4bet JJ的原因。如果你一定要有一个4bet/fold range,用JJ太浪费了,还不如用AXs,KXs这种烂牌。

turn上的确没必要下那么多,可能下个$18左右就够了,主要是赶走他的AK,AQ。比我好的牌无论我下多少他也不会fold。






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