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玩牌有漏洞，思维不够完整~

西红柿哥哥 发表于 2014-7-15 14:02
玩牌有漏洞，思维不够完整~

说出来都是泪

i have no idea what i was doing..... if i think i'm behind i should fold, and if i'm ahead i should push.... this is text book weak-tight sytle...


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($81.13)
UTG+1 ($43.90)
MP1 ($22.50)
MP2 ($54.50)
Hero (MP3) ($53.21)
CO ($31.65)
Button ($33.60)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($47.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, 8
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.25) 8, A, 4 (3 players)
MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3, Button calls $3

Turn: ($14.25) 8 (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets $3, MP2 calls $3, Hero raises to $14.73, 1 fold, MP2 calls $11.73

River: ($46.71) K (2 players)
MP2 bets $4, Hero raises to $11.50, MP2 raises to $19, Hero calls $7.50

Total pot: $84.71 | Rake: $3

Results below: [spoiler]
MP2 had J, A (two pair, Aces and eights).
Hero had J, 8 (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $81.71[/spoiler]

this is one of the worst hands i've ever played. i actually have a note on Villian says "bets pot when hit".
obviously facing a mini raise, against a wide range, i'm calling with anything remotely playable in the BB. when he bet the flop i knew he had nothing. my plan was to let him put as much money in the pot as possible with his air. So i should def. c/r the turn. if the turn went check thru, i should bet any river.

for some reason i wussed out and end up letting him winning the pot.......


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($51.43)
SB ($64.90)
Hero (BB) ($53.75)
UTG ($52.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 10
1 fold, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 6, 2, J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.12, Hero calls $1.12

Turn: ($4.49) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($10.49) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $10.49 | Rake: $0.50

Results below: [spoiler]
Button had 7, 10 (one pair, Jacks).
Hero had 5, 10 (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $9.99[/spoiler]

fafafafefe 发表于 2014-7-17 10:42
this is one of the worst hands i've ever played. i actually have a note on Villian says "bets pot wh ...

这个对手要标志一下他的下注马脚，这样的牌面有位置下注半个底池，转牌来最大的公对加大下注量bluff。
当然楼主在转牌也跟的太松，fold或者加注，加注利用对手下注尺寸逻辑上的不合理。
最近对牌面的潮湿/干燥的理解有些不同了，同花听不代表湿润，而是根据对手的range击中与否来判定，或者依据对手玩牌的倾向性，一般来说，flop三张牌结合得不是很紧密的，一高两低（间隔非常宽/间隔比较宽）是典型的干燥牌面，公对+间隔较宽的牌，两高一低的牌面，间隔非常宽的也可以算是干燥牌面。

英文不太好，楼主对对手还是有阅读的并做了笔记，但却没有执行到位，转牌对手check的话，楼主打算bet任意river，问题是转牌对手bet了，这里就是一个fold or C/R。

folding is not an option....
这牌我的思路是对的，可惜执行力不够。
我当然可以flop c/r 把他打跑，但是对上一个很宽的范围，我等他turn上再开一枪给我送点钱再把他打走。所以turn上是一个明显的c/r。万一他turn上不下注也没关系，我可以bet any river把他打走，除非他river到什么东西。

fafafafefe 发表于 2014-7-17 16:13
folding is not an option....
这牌我的思路是对的，可惜执行力不够。
我当然可以flop c/r 把他打跑，但是 ...

看到结果了 当然怎么说都行了，你的思路我不是很喜欢，在有draw的牌面，弃牌率并不高，你无法确认对手是air。

I feel like i should either shove or fold the turn, or call turn and shove river. give him a range of QJ,KJ,JJ,QQ,44,AT,KT i have 46% equity but i just don't see very many poeple capable of raise with a draw (or combo draw) on the turn. most turn raises are nutted hands. at the time i was thinking he could be raising with stuff like KJ, QJ. but if i think once i called the turn i should shove the river b/c every better hand is shove but some worse hands are going to chk behind....

all in all a tough hand...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($110.80)
Hero (MP) ($140)
CO ($104)
Button ($206.90)
SB ($98)
BB ($103.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10) 4, J, K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7, 1 fold

Turn: ($24) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $13, CO raises to $34, Hero calls $21

River: ($92) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $60 (All-In), Hero calls $60

Total pot: $212 | Rake: $3

Results below: [spoiler]
Hero had K, Q (two pair, Kings and Queens).
CO had K, A (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $209[/spoiler]

fafafafefe 发表于 2014-7-21 15:48
I feel like i should either shove or fold the turn, or call turn and shove river. give him a range o ...

你的对手打得太奇怪。
盲注位有很喜欢挤压的么，否则AKo是一个标准的3bet啊。
turn，这里对手加注有点莫名其妙，看来他很喜欢诈唬，特别是当对手前倨后恭的时候。
河牌，对手是啥心态搞不懂，硬要送钱给楼主，call turn call river，楼主笑纳