O8 初心牌谱等

还请Rich 和其他我不知道的 O8前辈多指导，通过这种形式也是给其他新人的帮助。可能规则都不算完全明白，凭借一点PLO 的经验 ，学习下。

有兴趣的新学的也可以一起来帖啊。

Hand#1
第一手自我批评下，《入门》一文有名记: 尽量不要玩类似5678这样的中间张。。 我这不是刚从PLO 起步嘛 ^____________^''

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($2)
Hero ($1.93)
BTN ($1.05)

Dealt to Hero 7 6 8 4 , BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.08, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.06

FLOP ($0.24) A 5 6

SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, BTN calls $0.16, SB calls $0.16

TURN ($0.72) A 5 6 K

SB checks, Hero bets $0.46, BTN raises to $0.81 (AI), SB calls $0.81, Hero calls $0.35

RIVER ($3.15) A 5 6 K 9

SB checks, Hero bets $0.88 (AI), SB calls $0.88

SB shows 4 88 2
(Pre 35%, Flop 18.7%, Turn 25.7%)

Hero shows 7 6 84
(Pre 32%, Flop 29.8%, Turn 18.8%)

BTN shows 5 J2 3
(Pre 33%, Flop 51.6%, Turn 55.6%)

SB wins $0.84
Hero wins $2.34
BTN wins $1.50

hand#2
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($3.75)
Hero ($2.44)
UTG ($1.29)
UTG+1 ($1.47)
UTG+2 ($2)
MP1 ($1.44)
MP2 ($1.50)
CO ($0.70)
BTN ($0.67)

Dealt to Hero 8 A  7  4 , fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, UTG+2 calls $0.02, fold, MP2 calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.08, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.06, UTG+1 calls $0.06, UTG+2 calls $0.06, MP2 calls $0.06

FLOP ($0.41) A 6 3

Hero bets $0.10, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises to $0.28, Hero raises to $1.23, CO calls $0.34 (AI)

TURN ($1.65) A 6 3 Q

RIVER ($1.65) A 6 3 Q 4

CO shows K 8 A A
(Pre 47%, Flop 29.9%, Turn 28.7%)

Hero shows 8 A 7 4
(Pre 53%, Flop 70.1%, Turn 71.2%)

CO wins $0.79
Hero wins $0.78

RichZhu 发表于 2011-12-23 07:20
monox这些小“学习点”是本贴的亮点！这些是很实惠的东西，不需要很多精力去学，但却常常用到。

至于5678 ...

哈哈，别。。 我就是不在乎曝露自己的问题，这样也可以让新人知道哪些是常见错误。就是我其他牌例里的问题，麻烦您老你有空回下撒。（当然很多问题相信多打自然会悟到)

我来瞎说。

O8我个人不多的经验，低级别就是大家一起撞大运，你只能尽量等待时机。

期望翻牌后的动作根本不现实。一堆人想着自己是Hi/Lo的坚果，回头大家一起chop，chop两下就完了。

低级别赢钱主要还是单向坚果实在。

monox这些小“学习点”是本贴的亮点！这些是很实惠的东西，不需要很多精力去学，但却常常用到。

至于5678的牌例，不做评价。。。

不过这是在低级别，对手起手牌也弱，基本功也不强。但自己要留心，注意别把地基打歪了，到了高级别，会被对手挤压得很惨的。。。

玩高低的话，没A的起手牌基本都很难玩吧，你2359单花这手，翻牌如果被人反加你就难受了，8人桌应该紧一点

转牌如果被反加，基本可以肯定对手是A2XX带两红桃，典型的高低牌通杀，还跟就是送钱了

今天最后的学习点:
O8 概率小插曲之二:

问:随即发5张牌（翻牌，转牌，河牌），有多少机会可以做成低牌(Lo) ？

答:等价于随机5张牌中，发出不同的1-8至少三张，其余牌随意。 这个概率大约为60% （详细计算略）。

Hand#5.
问题: 这样的牌在multipot flop 后位是好牌吗。  我觉得和一个人打比和一锅人打好很多。
第二个问题: turn 继续bet 好吗。如果被x/r 我应该继续下去吧

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($1.08)
BB ($0.73)
UTG ($2.86)
UTG+1 ($1.30)
UTG+2 ($1.58)
CO ($1.97)
Hero ($2.40)

Dealt to Hero 3 5 2 9 , fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, UTG+2 calls $0.02, fold, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

FLOP ($0.10) 6 T 4

SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10

TURN ($0.30) 6 T 4 Q

UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.29, UTG+2 calls $0.29

RIVER ($0.88) 6 T 4 Q K

UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.42, UTG+2 folds

Hero shows 3 5 2 9

Hero wins $0.84

Hand#4 这手犯大错了，光注重防小，忘记了老本行了    Turn call 比较好，或者fold 给他的3bet..筹码太小不当回事，一方面也想看看他什么牌，学习学习。
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $0.02(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($0.78)
BB ($1.53)
UTG ($1.35)
UTG+1 ($2.22)
UTG+2 ($1.66)
MP1 ($0.99)
CO ($2.12)
Hero ($2.49)

Dealt to Hero 7 J K Q , UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

FLOP ($0.10) Q 4 2

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.04, CO folds, Hero calls $0.04, SB folds, BB folds

TURN ($0.18) Q 4 2 K

UTG bets $0.18, Hero raises to $0.36, UTG raises to $1.26, Hero calls $0.90

RIVER ($2.70) Q 4 2 K 5

UTG bets $0.03 (AI), Hero calls $0.03

Hero shows 7 J [B]K [/B][B]Q [/B]
(Pre 39%, Flop 5.1%, Turn 5.0%)

UTG shows [B]Q [/B]7 T [B]Q [/B]
(Pre 61%, Flop 94.9%, Turn 95.0%)

UTG wins $2.63

Hand#3
这里主要问题: 这flop可以跟吗

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($2.02)
Hero ($2.06)
UTG ($5)
CO ($3.36)
BTN ($4.97)

Dealt to Hero A J 3 9 , fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.04

FLOP ($0.12) 8 3 4

SB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

TURN ($0.28) 8 3 4 2

SB bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.34

RIVER ($1.08) 8 3 4 2 3

SB bets $1.03, Hero calls $1.03

SB shows Q T 8 5
(Pre 41%, Flop 41.2%, Turn 26.2%)

Hero shows A J 3 9
(Pre 59%, Flop 58.7%, Turn 73.8%)

Hero wins $2.99

概率小插曲1: (如有错误，请随时指正)
假设英雄持有 A234 彩虹, 翻牌发出KK6 彩虹，请问英雄到河底有多少机会可以成为坚果Lo?

答: 由于英雄手里有四个低牌，所以只要考虑连续出两个不同的除6以外的低牌的概率即可。 这个概率大约为1/4。（详细计算略）