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如何防守盲注

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傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-24 19:00:42 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2017-3-24 20:04 编辑

盲注攻防, 这周满脑子想的都是这个, 城里专门讨论这个的贴子不多, 斗胆献丑,抛砖引玉。


单以PS 6MAX而论, 90%以上的REG都能实现在EP,MP,CO,BTN实现盈利。 然而盈利情况却参差不齐, 水平的差距基本能从盲位体现。

面对无休止地偷盲,太绥靖的策略会导致钱向洪水决堤一样流失。光靠3BET反击止血还远远不够, 要迫使自己进入POSTFLOP,尽管在不利位置打牌会非常得不舒服。

“我防守盲注,不是要证明我了不起,而是我POST出去的EQUITY,一定要拿回来。” 小马哥表示这就是防守盲注的全部意义。

先说BB位的防守: “要么在BLUFF,要么在去往BLUFF的路上。”   总而言之, 非常激进地游戏BB位, 核心思想是PHIL GALFOND 的:当你的RANGE很强的时候多诈唬,  而RANGE很弱的时候多价值下注。


套路1:SQZ,以下均为实战牌例
PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101 BB (VPIP: 26.71, PFR: 20.68, 3Bet Preflop: 10.10, Hands: 2,392)
SB: 106.12 BB (VPIP: 19.35, PFR: 16.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 629)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 176.6 BB (VPIP: 30.07, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 16.92, Hands: 155)
MP: 112.2 BB (VPIP: 19.25, PFR: 15.37, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 1,683)
CO: 66.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 K

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 7.6 BB, BTN calls 7.6 BB

Flop: (30.4 BB, 3 players)  5 3 8
Hero bets 21.8 BB, UTG calls 21.8 BB, BTN calls 21.8 BB

Turn: (95.8 BB, 3 players)  T
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

River: (95.8 BB, 3 players)  A
Hero bets 68.2 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins 91.48 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 106.32 BB (VPIP: 20.64, PFR: 13.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.63, Hands: 420)
MP: 199.88 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.88, Hands: 184)
CO: 201.44 BB (VPIP: 25.64, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 39)
BTN: 199.4 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 17)
SB: 103.76 BB (VPIP: 24.53, PFR: 18.90, 3Bet Preflop: 9.63, Hands: 1,367)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q 7

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.4 BB, CO calls 9.4 BB, fold

Flop: (28.2 BB, 2 players)  7 A 3
Hero bets 17.96 BB, CO calls 17.96 BB

Turn: (64.12 BB, 2 players)  4
Hero bets 69.64 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 61.24 BB



PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 102.16 BB (VPIP: 25.87, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.91, Hands: 5,993)
BTN: 70.24 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 22.80, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 5.53, Hands: 1,167)
Hero (BB): 115.44 BB
UTG: 207.96 BB (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 18.94, 3Bet Preflop: 8.09, Hands: 6,646)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  3 5

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 9.4 BB

Flop: (28.2 BB, 2 players)  5 2 2
Hero bets 17.96 BB, BTN calls 17.96 BB

Turn: (64.12 BB, 2 players)  J
Hero bets 40.84 BB, fold

Hero wins 61.24 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 36.8 BB (VPIP: 25.53, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 48)
BTN: 109.76 BB (VPIP: 25.86, PFR: 15.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 61)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 19.31, PFR: 15.73, 3Bet Preflop: 5.31, Hands: 1,848)
Hero (BB): 124.56 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.55, PFR: 19.01, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 1,608)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  A J

UTG raises to 2.48 BB, CO calls 2.48 BB, BTN calls 2.48 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.8 BB, UTG calls 10.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 10.32 BB

Flop: (41.28 BB, 3 players)  K J 5
Hero bets 26.28 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 39.44 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 114.8 BB (VPIP: 24.05, PFR: 1.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 80)
Hero (BB): 121.28 BB
UTG: 108.96 BB (VPIP: 26.12, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 10.43, Hands: 305)
MP: 120.4 BB (VPIP: 23.92, PFR: 17.40, 3Bet Preflop: 7.03, Hands: 2,957)
CO: 149.32 BB (VPIP: 34.85, PFR: 24.07, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 256)
BTN: 116 BB (VPIP: 19.82, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.04, Hands: 792)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  5 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.4 BB, CO calls 9.4 BB, BTN calls 9.4 BB

Flop: (37.6 BB, 3 players)  Q 6 J
Hero bets 23.96 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 35.92 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 132.72 BB (VPIP: 26.86, PFR: 20.21, 3Bet Preflop: 8.22, Hands: 783)
MP: 103.12 BB (VPIP: 29.42, PFR: 21.47, 3Bet Preflop: 10.22, Hands: 508)
CO: 160.08 BB (VPIP: 41.86, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 43)
BTN: 74.24 BB (VPIP: 36.65, PFR: 6.21, 3Bet Preflop: 5.06, Hands: 167)
SB: 80.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 118.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  4 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.4 BB, CO calls 9.4 BB, BTN calls 9.4 BB

Flop: (37.6 BB, 3 players)  K 8 9
Hero bets 23.96 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 35.92 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.92 BB (VPIP: 17.60, PFR: 13.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 1,820)
SB: 76.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 112 BB
UTG: 158.04 BB (VPIP: 22.15, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 1,427)
MP: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 24.46, PFR: 14.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 148)
CO: 124.16 BB (VPIP: 34.51, PFR: 30.54, 3Bet Preflop: 22.11, Hands: 18,121)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  3 5

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 2 players)  8 K Q
SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, fold

Hero wins 36.28 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 149.12 BB (VPIP: 25.43, PFR: 19.70, 3Bet Preflop: 7.16, Hands: 4,645)
BTN: 64.88 BB (VPIP: 40.54, PFR: 20.27, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 76)
SB: 116.48 BB (VPIP: 42.50, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 40)
Hero (BB): 143.44 BB
UTG: 63.08 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  6 5

fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 2 players)  T K 3
SB checks, Hero bets 22.92 BB, fold

Hero wins 34.4 BB


用SQZ去惩罚比较松的OPENER和CALLER,  翻后要根据BOARD TXTURE是否契合自身RANGE保持CONSISTENCY.  至于自己是什么牌,多数时候是Irrelevant.

那位说了, 这样无脑凶,很容易被利用, 有牌CALL到底就行了。--并没有那么容易, villain, r call preflop 的RANGE没有强到可以剥削‘R,B,B,B’这条LINE。 何况我们AA,KK,QQ都这么打。更恶心的是有时我们会有诈着诈着来牌,瞬间让对手TILT. 比如下面几手。

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 78.8 BB (VPIP: 27.85, PFR: 23.14, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 1,173)
MP: 176.64 BB (VPIP: 25.56, PFR: 18.98, 3Bet Preflop: 6.03, Hands: 4,537)
CO: 77.76 BB (VPIP: 22.33, PFR: 16.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 107)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.99, PFR: 18.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.07, Hands: 6,690)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 22.66, 3Bet Preflop: 8.35, Hands: 1,358)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  T K

UTG raises to 2.8 BB, MP calls 2.8 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, MP calls 11.2 BB, fold

Flop: (33.6 BB, 2 players)  9 6 J
Hero bets 21.4 BB, MP calls 21.4 BB

Turn: (76.4 BB, 2 players)  Q
Hero bets 64.6 BB and is all-in, MP calls 64.6 BB

River: (205.6 BB, 2 players)  9
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (205.6 BB, 2 players)  T

Hero shows  T K  (Straight, King High)
Board #1 (Pre 36%, Flop 33%, Turn 100%)
(Straight, King High)
Board #2 (Pre 36%, Flop 34%, Turn 100%)

MP shows  A Q  (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
Board #1 (Pre 64%, Flop 67%, Turn 0%)
(One Pair, Queens)
Board #2 (Pre 64%, Flop 66%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 98.8 BB
Hero wins 98.8 BB

打完这手我把他标鱼了,之u前数据看着蛮正常。V不信邪,FLOP做出了正确的鱼CALL,然后悲剧了。 当然TURN只要不出J,我都是ALLIN的。

再比如这手,有很多鱼不信邪。

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 80.12 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 105.56 BB
UTG: 142 BB (VPIP: 25.39, PFR: 18.46, 3Bet Preflop: 7.61, Hands: 3,304)
CO: 106.24 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 14.04, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 57)
BTN: 35.32 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  7 7

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, BTN calls 12 BB, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (48 BB, 3 players)  T 5 7
SB checks, Hero bets 30.56 BB, fold, SB calls 30.56 BB

Turn: (109.12 BB, 2 players)  4
SB checks, Hero bets 60 BB and is all-in, SB calls 34.56 BB and is all-in

River: (178.24 BB, 2 players)  2
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (178.24 BB, 2 players)  K

SB shows  J T  (One Pair, Tens)
Board #1 (Pre 51%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
(One Pair, Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 51%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows  7 7  (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
Board #1 (Pre 49%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
(Three of a Kind, Sevens)
Board #2 (Pre 49%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)

Hero wins 85.12 BB
Hero wins 85.12 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 82.44 BB (VPIP: 25.87, PFR: 15.06, 3Bet Preflop: 9.90, Hands: 270)
SB: 156.8 BB (VPIP: 16.81, PFR: 10.08, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 123)
Hero (BB): 137.48 BB
UTG: 115.56 BB (VPIP: 15.69, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 52)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 21.55, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 725)
CO: 59.4 BB (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  8 3

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15.4 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 12.4 BB

Flop: (37.2 BB, 2 players)  5 3 3
Hero bets 17.76 BB, BTN calls 17.76 BB

Turn: (72.72 BB, 2 players)  6
Hero bets 52.08 BB, BTN calls 49.28 BB and is all-in

River: (171.28 BB, 2 players)  A

Hero shows  8 3  (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 38%, Flop 86%, Turn 91%)
BTN shows  2 A  (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 62%, Flop 14%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 163.56 BB



当然有吃肉的时候,贼骨头也有挨打的时候。

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.67, PFR: 18.72, 3Bet Preflop: 7.46, Hands: 194)
BTN: 145.16 BB (VPIP: 30.26, PFR: 23.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.35, Hands: 1,100)
SB: 105.96 BB (VPIP: 29.66, PFR: 23.73, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 123)
Hero (BB): 112.12 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.36, PFR: 20.01, 3Bet Preflop: 10.20, Hands: 4,369)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  8 7

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.48 BB, fold, Hero raises to 7.84 BB, BTN calls 5.36 BB

Flop: (16.08 BB, 2 players)  K 2 4
Hero bets 4.6 BB, BTN calls 4.6 BB

Turn: (25.28 BB, 2 players)  6
Hero bets 16.12 BB, BTN calls 16.12 BB

River: (57.52 BB, 2 players)  4
Hero bets 83.56 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 83.56 BB

Hero shows  8 7  (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 51%, Flop 2%, Turn 9%)
BTN shows  2 2  (Full House, Twos full of Fours)
(Pre 49%, Flop 98%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 216.64 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.16, PFR: 14.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 513)
MP: 144.84 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 7.18, Hands: 4,453)
CO: 114.08 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 18.36, 3Bet Preflop: 9.22, Hands: 3,595)
BTN: 105.64 BB (VPIP: 23.59, PFR: 18.02, 3Bet Preflop: 7.37, Hands: 1,230)
SB: 110.68 BB (VPIP: 72.00, PFR: 26.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 51)
Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  2 2

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO calls 9 BB, fold

Flop: (27 BB, 2 players)  9 3 J
Hero bets 17.2 BB, CO calls 17.2 BB

Turn: (61.4 BB, 2 players)  5
Hero bets 70.8 BB and is all-in, CO calls 70.8 BB

River: (203 BB, 2 players)  T

Hero shows  2 2  (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 46%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows  T J  (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 54%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
CO wins 195 BB

总之SQZ,主要在于TIMING。   手牌不重要。  

然而,SQZ只能解决一小部分问题, 3BET 达到15%,那么剩下的85%应该怎么解决。主要问题还要靠POSTFLOP解决。

从而引出
套路2:FLOAT.






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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-31 23:26:58 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2017-3-31 23:39 编辑

写帖子挺费劲的, 本来打算烂尾,发现版主给加了精华。那我还是写一下这几天的心得,也纠正一下前面写的一些有问题的地方。免得有些比我还新的新手们受到误导。

实验至今约38000手, 目前BB位 -28bb/100H, SB -13bb/100H.  vpip 37/14  ,sb 21/15

懂行的看到这里就大致明白问题出在哪里了。  我的图表中,有两次超过1000BB的下挫,而且都是在短短的100-300手牌集中出现,短期连续出现这样的情形显然不能用简单运气不好来解释。

问题仍然出在大盲位置,尽管目前的数据还可以,但是被针对的风险正在显著增强。 所以还需要继续补充调整。

一: SQZ的调整分成3个方面
1:略微收紧SQZ的RANGE,对上对方跟注的RANGE至少要有35%+的EQUITY,大概是K7s+,Q9s+,J9s,T8s+.
2:调整FLOP CBET 的频率,因为我们SQZ时有太多的弱牌,  应该显著降低FLOP CBET的频率,采用XF, Delayed cbet on turn or river来降低诈唬的成本。
3:完全放弃在我们的牌力无法未来得到增强的SPOT进行诈唬,  简单CHECK FOLD。


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 86.28 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.58, PFR: 15.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.22, Hands: 751)
Hero (BB): 129.92 BB
UTG: 115.28 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 39)
MP: 147.64 BB (VPIP: 20.78, PFR: 16.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.10, Hands: 1,969)
CO: 74.8 BB (VPIP: 28.77, PFR: 19.86, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 150)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 9

UTG raises to 3.48 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3.48 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14.32 BB, UTG calls 10.84 BB, BTN calls 10.84 BB

Flop: (43.36 BB, 3 players)  A 8 7
Hero checks, UTG checks, fold

Turn: (43.36 BB, 2 players)  6
Hero bets 12.44 BB, fold

Hero wins 41.4 BB







二:对FLOAT的调整。FLOAT有两个前提,1:headsup  2: 我们在BB对抗SB OR BTN.  这两点不需要调整。仅需要明确在什么样的SPOT选择FLOAT.我会选择以下两种情况。


1:基于牌面,我们有后门花,后门顺,或者牌面有变湿的趋势。
PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 117.92 BB
UTG: 119.48 BB (VPIP: 42.28, PFR: 35.77, 3Bet Preflop: 18.37, Hands: 129)
CO: 110 BB (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
BTN: 65.56 BB (VPIP: 32.10, PFR: 20.99, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 81)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.67, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 7.96, Hands: 7,056)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 8

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players)  7 T 2
SB bets 3.76 BB, Hero calls 3.76 BB

Turn: (13.52 BB, 2 players)  Q
SB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 13.48 BB, SB calls 7.48 BB

River: (40.48 BB, 2 players)  6
SB checks, Hero bets 97.68 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 38.64 BB


尽管对方连续下注表现得很强势,但是在这种潮湿的面上,他在没有位置的情况下,绝大多数时候是不愿意和我们纠缠的, 所以我选择尽量把锅做大, 之所以选择在TURN上再R, 一是为了有更多死钱,二是留下充足的弹药在RIVER进行BLUFF.     击中的时候就激进地VALUE。

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 109 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 19.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 1,753)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.63, PFR: 16.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.59, Hands: 1,083)
BTN: 75.2 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 17.31, 3Bet Preflop: 7.67, Hands: 1,736)
Hero (BB): 172.56 BB
UTG: 68.12 BB (VPIP: 29.58, PFR: 19.72, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 148)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  K 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.48 BB, Hero calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (4.96 BB, 2 players)  3 8 A
SB bets 3.12 BB, Hero calls 3.12 BB

Turn: (11.2 BB, 2 players)  2
SB bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 21.36 BB, SB calls 13.36 BB

River: (53.92 BB, 2 players)  4
SB checks, Hero bets 145.6 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 51.48 BB
当我们河牌 MISS的时候,激进地BLUFF.


2:基于对手的ACTION,当对手的ACTION和SIZING有异常的时候,通常是MAKE MOVE 的机会。
PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 65.36 BB (VPIP: 27.90, PFR: 23.31, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 1,205)
Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  4 3

SB raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 7.2 BB, SB calls 4.8 BB

Flop: (14.4 BB, 2 players)  2 9 4
Hero checks, SB bets 7.2 BB, Hero calls 7.2 BB

Turn: (28.8 BB, 2 players)  9
Hero checks, SB checks

River: (28.8 BB, 2 players)  Q
Hero checks, SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

SB shows  J A  (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 64%, Flop 26%, Turn 32%)
Hero shows  4 3  (Two Pair, Nines and Fours)
(Pre 36%, Flop 74%, Turn 68%)
Hero wins 54.8 BB


这手当时桌上只有2个人, 单挑。   FLOP 我做标准的XC,这里说明不了他有什么牌,  TURN上对手88.TT这些牌做控池也可以理解,FLUSH应该继续要价值,河牌他在所有可能持有的手对都被盖帽的情况下注半池,结合FLOP和TURN的行动,此处非常不合理。  



PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.95, PFR: 20.54, 3Bet Preflop: 8.74, Hands: 1,536)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.55, PFR: 18.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.67, Hands: 8,157)
SB: 146.24 BB (VPIP: 39.64, PFR: 31.98, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 228)
Hero (BB): 103.36 BB
UTG: 104.16 BB (VPIP: 22.63, PFR: 18.22, 3Bet Preflop: 8.72, Hands: 551)
MP: 39.36 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.8 BB, Hero calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (5.6 BB, 2 players)  J 3 4
SB bets 4.04 BB, Hero calls 4.04 BB

Turn: (13.68 BB, 2 players)  A
SB bets 9.8 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, SB calls 12.2 BB

River: (57.68 BB, 2 players)  7
SB checks, Hero bets 36.72 BB, fold

Hero wins 55.08 BB
这手牌到了TURN上我们的牌已经废了,  但是他的SIZING 非常不合理,  FLOP 70%,TURN 还是70%,看上去像是机械性下注,并且支持他这样做的牌只有少数的AJ,A4,A3和SET,基于双方的位置,他持有这些牌的可能性非常低。我选择诈唬两条街。  这手牌打得有些勉强了,Q9s的话就完美。

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 158.28 BB
UTG: 103.48 BB (VPIP: 25.60, PFR: 18.93, 3Bet Preflop: 5.79, Hands: 5,062)
CO: 126.16 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 18)
SB: 102.08 BB (VPIP: 38.60, PFR: 24.56, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 116)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  7 A

fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB calls 3 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 2 players)  T 8 4
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (9 BB, 2 players)  4
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (19 BB, 2 players)  2
SB bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, fold

Hero wins 37.24 BB


这里到了河牌, SB的BET简直像是开玩笑,很不严肃。 他的绝大多数LIMP CALL的牌应该是求SHOWDOWN, 如果歪中4,VALUE我的超对或99应该下注更大。  但是我的牌力不一定能赢诈唬,很便宜地诈唬回去。

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 107.36 BB (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 123.72 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 20.49, 3Bet Preflop: 9.62, Hands: 538)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.16, PFR: 18.39, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 318)
CO: 140.08 BB (VPIP: 27.95, PFR: 20.76, 3Bet Preflop: 8.92, Hands: 3,060)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.35, PFR: 18.12, 3Bet Preflop: 2.99, Hands: 877)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players)  T K 5
SB checks, Hero bets 3.8 BB, SB calls 3.8 BB

Turn: (13.6 BB, 2 players)  K
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (13.6 BB, 2 players)  3
SB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, SB calls 8 BB

Hero shows  9 5  (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 37%, Flop 64%, Turn 70%)
SB mucks  Q A  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 63%, Flop 36%, Turn 30%)
Hero wins 41.64 BB

这手牌复杂一点,他多数时候手里是不可能有K的,  我认为他河牌下注只有些TX还有JQ,66-88在诈唬。,最强是JJ。  和上面一手一样,我对5去CALL没那么保险。 R可以打走他的小对子,  他有T肯定会CALL,因此我做了一个很小的R.  至于他AQ不肯承认失败,可能是读我这里不会R TX从而可能是在诈唬,并且忽略了我可能有K这一点,总之他的跟注非常不合理,他可能忘记了他自己本身就是在诈唬。


在FLOAT的过程中,一定要避免以下这种牌


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 103.32 BB
UTG: 180.56 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: 99.52 BB (VPIP: 28.25, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 183)
BTN: 126.64 BB (VPIP: 16.04, PFR: 12.89, 3Bet Preflop: 3.46, Hands: 764)
SB: 119.72 BB (VPIP: 25.60, PFR: 18.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.75, Hands: 7,672)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  7 9

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players)  A J 9
SB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players)  6
SB checks, Hero bets 6.36 BB, SB calls 6.36 BB

River: (22.72 BB, 2 players)  9
SB checks, Hero bets 16.28 BB, SB calls 16.28 BB

Hero shows  7 9  (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 43%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)
SB mucks  5 A  (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 57%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 52.8 BB


这手牌犯了非常低级的错误, TURN上的下注简直是在烧钱,  将一手有SHOWDOWN VALUE的牌打成了四不像。


综合以上, 尽管还是要很松,凶地保卫盲注,但是时候剔除一些在翻后无价值的牌了,  VPIP 37实在是太高了…。 未来我会下调到27-33之间,3BET控制在10以内,直到找到最有效率的点。

我只讲了我在大盲位调整的思路,小盲和大盲略有区别, 小盲更复杂一些,留给以后再琢磨吧,单从VPIP来看,我会在以后降到19/15左右。









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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-27 18:26:05 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2017-3-27 18:29 编辑

套路5: sit out next big blind.            

这个并非是技术方面的,  作为娱乐玩家容易犯这个错误,我自己一直在犯。   当我想结束一个SESSION的时候,我总是选择SIT OUT NEXT HAND.   直到这几天我才意识到这是一个非常非常严重的错误。

数据为例:总手数253601  其中BB50765,SB49809,BTN 47937, co44926,MP38343, UTG只有21821.  我在最输钱的位置打了最多的手数, 这对整体的盈率简直是灾难性的(大约少了1.5+BB/100)。  
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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-27 18:02:09 来自手机 | 只看该作者
gulugulubing 发表于 2017-3-27 17:33
厉害 讲解的够详细 学习了。我是娱乐玩家,最近一直在玩NL10的九人桌,玩了14万手不到,盈率只有可怜的3b ...

NL10整体风格偏紧弱,你不妨试试我的路数,然后把你的心得也post上来,我们一起探讨。  

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gulugulubing 发表于 2017-3-27 17:33:56 | 只看该作者
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-27 11:41
你在EP是赢利的吗? 是的话就别听我忽悠。
我在EP是+14BB/100              总手数25万

厉害 讲解的够详细 学习了。我是娱乐玩家,最近一直在玩NL10的九人桌,玩了14万手不到,盈率只有可怜的3bb/100手不到。发现自己大盲打的太差 -50bb+/100,所以对你的帖子很感兴趣,期待后续。
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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-27 14:36:02 | 只看该作者
sexrange 发表于 2017-3-27 14:03
现在德X圈的50100(25)的七人局也在逐步向ps标准的打法靠拢!本人本身就是国际平台出身,对这套6MAX理论实 ...

正在慎重的考虑此事,   NL25直跳NL2000, so unreal.      确实有点搞笑

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sexrange 发表于 2017-3-27 14:03:59 | 只看该作者
现在德X圈的50100(25)的七人局也在逐步向ps标准的打法靠拢!本人本身就是国际平台出身,对这套6MAX理论实践也非常多。楼主实践差不多就来德扑圈吧!NL25,笑死人了,来德扑圈就是直接升级NL2000。
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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-3-27 11:41:07 | 只看该作者
gulugulubing 发表于 2017-3-27 00:31
傻鱼兄 能讲解下 6max和9max 在utg 同样open15%,但构成是不同的么 我还真不懂 难道9max能open的在6max反而 ...

你在EP是赢利的吗? 是的话就别听我忽悠。
我在EP是+14BB/100              总手数25万

9max  如果RAISE 15% for value.那在6MAX,应该13%+2%STEAL OR  12+3%.

区别在于对抗3BET时,6MAX要构建更强的CALL 3BET RANGE, 因为6MAX UTG 遭遇3bet并不是小概率事件。9MAX基本很少。

我自己是移除一部分在9MAX 会去OPEN的牌比如55,AJ。 增加一些更差的SC.
99-JJ AQs 95%的时候FOLD TO 3BET, 5% 4BET.AQo 100% fold to 3bet.
也就是说在UTG,我把这部分牌的VALUE功能弱化,  他们主要用于偷盲,进入FLOP后这些牌的目的也很明确,他们只承担很少的赚钱的功能,基本持平就可以。
所以我们整体的OPEN RANGE并没有实质上的弱化。


然后,用AK+ 去CALL 3BET, 尽管我们没位置,但有RANGE优势,对手还是会感到我们很难对付,占不到什么便宜。


AA,KK,QQ,绝大多数时候4BET.偶尔平跟,混合一些差牌的LIGHT 4BET。

因此我们的OPEN RANGE,CALL 3BET RANGE, 4BET RANGE, 都很强。  并且在任何公共牌面我们RANGE中都有一部分有强击中,对手很难跟我们周旋。

通过偷盲可以实现2BB/100的数据。这部分是EASY MONEY,一定要捡。

早上刚打的一手牌:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.12, PFR: 17.73, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 208)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BTN: 67.48 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 10)
SB: 179.48 BB (VPIP: 28.07, PFR: 22.98, 3Bet Preflop: 11.67, Hands: 829)
BB: 101.72 BB (VPIP: 25.83, PFR: 18.77, 3Bet Preflop: 7.96, Hands: 6,876)
Hero (UTG): 115.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 T

Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.48 BB, SB raises to 10.92 BB, fold, Hero raises to 22 BB, BTN calls 19.52 BB, fold

Flop: (55.92 BB, 2 players)  3 8 7
Hero bets 47 BB, BTN calls 45.48 BB and is all-in

Turn: (146.88 BB, 2 players)  Q

River: (146.88 BB, 2 players)  A

Hero shows  9 T  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 74%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
BTN shows  9 6  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 26%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 140.28 BB


我在UTG 偷盲, MP和CO数据正常,预计不会平跟,  BTN傻鱼(永远都希望鱼来跟注,9Ts打这种鱼足够好了)跟注。  SB SQZ,我不可能去平跟这手牌, 以他的数据,4BET 是更好的选项。       按常理这手牌到此就结束了, 但是BTN 鱼继续跟注,SB REG FOLD.        

如果我们的RANGE中 有太多AQo/22-66/KQo  这些牌,一方面是翻前很难去4BET, 另一方面在这种FLOP,  这些牌就很尴尬,筹码再深的话容易被吊打。












     


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gulugulubing 发表于 2017-3-27 00:31:03 来自手机 | 只看该作者
傻鱼兄 能讲解下 6max和9max 在utg 同样open15%,但构成是不同的么 我还真不懂 难道9max能open的在6max反而不能open呢?
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