PS NL100一手牌，太凶残了。求评

我知道pref的call 3bet不对。可是既然靠了，只好这么打了

求高手指点

PokerStars Hand #107010371565:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2013/11/14 19:53:49 CET [2013/11/14 13:53:49 ET]

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB (SB): 47.42 BB (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BB (BB): 198.8 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG (UTG): 101.85 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 70)
CO (CO): 100 BB (VPIP: 17.56, PFR: 13.31, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 363)

PokerStars Hand #107010371565:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2013/11/14 19:53:49 CET [2013/11/14 13:53:49 ET]
Table 'Maasym II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Sashatenna ($47.42 in chips)
Seat 2: hlp100 ($198.80 in chips)
Seat 3: KarmaPlusEV ($101.85 in chips)
Seat 5: mypoker1984 ($100 in chips)
Seat 6: neilwu ($100 in chips)
Sashatenna: posts small blind $0.50
hlp100: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to neilwu [2c Ac]
KarmaPlusEV: folds
mypoker1984: folds
neilwu: raises $2 to $3
Sashatenna: folds
hlp100: raises $7 to $10
neilwu: calls $7
*** FLOP *** [2h 7s Jd]
hlp100: bets $13
neilwu: calls $13
*** TURN *** [2h 7s Jd] [4s]
hlp100: checks
neilwu: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 7s Jd 4s] [Kh]
hlp100: bets $39
neilwu: calls $39
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hlp100: shows [Tc 6c] (high card King)
neilwu: shows [2c Ac] (a pair of Deuces)
neilwu collected $121.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $124.50 | Rake $2.80
Board [2h 7s Jd 4s Kh]
Seat 1: Sashatenna (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: hlp100 (big blind) showed [Tc 6c] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: KarmaPlusEV folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mypoker1984 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: neilwu (button) showed [2c Ac] and won ($121.70) with a pair of Deuces

需要基于数据分析postflop，一对2还是别指望它的摊牌价值，最好还是turn打一枪。不过既然他3bet T6s想必3bet BTN很高，4bet/fold或者直接fold都可。

andyliu7 发表于 2013-11-15 21:49
声明：我看了牌例直接留言的，没看别人回复的内容。

谢谢回复。

我也是在纠结这手牌是不是特例。记忆中也有很多时候是输给对手的。没有形成一套成型的系统，在调试阶段。这手牌把对手当做3bet steal 15%+ 来打的。
对手在$46的pot里打$39，AA, AK打不出来的，KK就pay给他了。

声明：我看了牌例直接留言的，没看别人回复的内容。

不太好！你能赢多手很少的牌（AQ;AT;JQ;A5之类的），其他的都赢不了，这个例子比较极端了！

你觉得对手会是什么牌？是不是判断对手河牌bet的量是一个咋呼的量才跟注。如果是的话，那我觉得这可能是唯一你跟注的理由，PS上不少人河牌的重注其实没啥东西。

atubo_beep 发表于 2013-11-15 10:15
楼主如果不是对这个人有特殊阅读的话，这个100bb A2跟注3bet 长期必然是输钱的。 ...

确实。
当时连续被人3bet fold掉后有点on tilt了。本想4bet回去，鬼使神差的call了，确实是败笔。
river上对对方bluff with AQ的概率大于三分之一去call的。

jierbaby 发表于 2013-11-15 10:39
不是太明白这牌turn上为什么不bet

我觉得对手是AA的话这时候可能会checkdown，pair2 有摊牌价值，turn上bet的话就转为bluff了。turn bet不如call对手river的bet

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players


Sashatenna (SB): $47.42
hlp100 (BB): $198.80
KarmaPlusEV (UTG): $101.85
mypoker1984 (CO): $100.00
Hero (BTN): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 2 A
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, hlp100 raises to $10, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 2 7 J (2 players)
hlp100 bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($46.50) 4 (2 players)
hlp100 checks, Hero checks

River: ($46.50) K (2 players)
hlp100 bets $39, Hero calls $39

Final Pot: $124.50
hlp100 shows T 6 (high card King)
Hero shows 2 A (a pair of Deuces)
Hero wins $121.70
(Rake: $2.80)

这牌局看得头晕  能整好点不

我觉得对手打的很好 你的范围里有太多太多的牌该丢掉 要是我的话 翻前就扔了