坑爹的抽水

澳洲现在经济形势不好，各方面都受影响，虽然扑克环境总体来说比较繁荣但是抽水坑爹得实在快没得玩了。

现场Cash Game只有在墨尔本Crown和悉尼StarCity才可以玩，Starcity 2/4以下一律$5/hr time charge, 10%Rake $10Cap, 5/5 $10/hr time charge, 10%Rake $10Cap. 5/10以上$25/hr time charge, no Rake.

墨尔本坐下就有$5的Seat Charge, 时间不限，但坑爹的是不知道什么时候翻牌前居然也有抽水了！而且也是10%, $10 CAP! 2/4中间一个松浪搞到15，后面四五个call, 我在大盲拿AQo做了一个几乎套池的巨大3-bet, 所有人全扔，我眼睁睁地看着Dealer拿走了两个红色$5的筹码往储蓄罐里那么一丢感觉眼珠子都快掉下来了，尼玛！我Preflop玩了命的！

不知道一个在正向区间波动，平均10BB/hr的NL400牌手（这在网络已经是相当不容易的成绩了）在2/4, 5/5, 5/10的预期波动和预期收益究竟是多少，我虽然远远不如霍师父的概率神算但凭感觉也认为是凶多吉少

现在真觉得能有个放心地方玩就不错了。各处抽水情况如果有兴趣交流下的也可以在帖子里面聊聊。今天在Star打5/5, 磨了两个多小时才盈利$55, 一看表55分，又是$10的抽水和$10的大盲小盲，赶紧起身溜号了。指着打现场挣钱，要不就资金储备雄厚直接能上美元的NL1000或者港币的50/100, 要不就指着有好到不行的运气打几个大型锦标赛就弄个前三名回来，指望Microstake Grinding太不靠谱了。

这两天马尼拉app t，新濠天地最大的桌子100/200相当于rmb 15/30，抽水10% cap 500再加每手bad pot 抽50，感觉-ev的一塌糊涂，第一天赢了30000 150bb也就4500 rmb，感觉在这里cash完全是浪费生命

1. 局太小。平时100/200都开不出。
2. 不是天天都能赢150bb的。
3. 抽水重。

后面打算享受比赛了，虽然这是更-ev的坑

老陈 发表于 2013-11-19 14:44
哪是抽水，简直就是抽血。
我估计，这样抽水我应该输钱，没法玩。
来加拿大玩吧，alberta 省一律5%，5$cap ...

再补充一条，6人以下3$cap。

哪是抽水，简直就是抽血。
我估计，这样抽水我应该输钱，没法玩。
来加拿大玩吧，alberta 省一律5%，5$cap。
无论什么扑克游戏，无论盲注多大全一样。
50/100PLO一锅经常上万也一样。
而且抽水规范，如果玩家发现dealer多抽0.5$，提出疑义，dealer得向玩家道歉。

Star City 有 10% rake 还要 hourly charge?

全世界的抽水讨论参见2+2帖子
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.co ... 1073492/index5.html

全澳洲Casino的抽水表格一览
All commissions for all Australian Casino's as of 01/11/13

Burswood Casino
-        $2/$5 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $15 – No charge for pots under $10
-        $5/$5 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $50
-        $5/$10 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $50
-        $25/$50 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $50
Burswood does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Cairns Casino Only have a $2.50/$5 NL game running – 5% capped at $25 – No charge for pots under $20
Cairns Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Townsville Casino
Only has a $2.50/$5 NL game running – 5% capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $20
Townsville Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Darwin Casino Only has a $5/$10 game running – 5% capped at $60 – No commission on pots under $20
Darwin Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Crown Casino
-        $1/$2 – 10% capped at $20 ($20-$80 Buy-In)
-        $1/$3 – 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit down charge ($50-$200 Buy-In)
-        $2/$4 – 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit down charge ($200-$400 Buy-In)
-        $5/$5 - 10% capped at $10, plus $10 one-off sit down charge ($300-$700 Buy-In)
-        $5/$10 or above – no rake, $25 hourly charge ($600-$2000 Buy-In)

Casino Canberra 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $20

Treasury Casino Brisbane-        $2/$4 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $14
-        $2.50/$5 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
-        $5/$10 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
Treasury Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Jupiters Casino Gold Coast - $1/$2 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $10
- $2/$4 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $12
- $2.50/$5 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
- $5/$10 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
- $10/$20 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
Jupiter’s Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.




Sky City Adelaide All games are 10% capped at $15 – no charge for pots under $20
Sky City Adelaide does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge

Star City Sydney’s commission scales; -$1/$2 NL games – 10% commission capped at $8 - $5 hourly time charge.
- $2/$5 NL games – 10% commission capped at $10 - $5 hourly time charge
-        $5/$5 NL games – 10% commission capped at $10 - $10 hourly time charge.


Sydney charges commission on all pots

Wrest Point Casino, Hobart and Country Club Casino, Launceston;
$1/$2.50 NL Games - $2.50 for every $50 in the pot rounded up. No hourly charge. No cap. This is between 5% and 9.7% depends what the pot total finishes at.


Correct me if i'm wrong on any of these, but i'm pretty sure it's right.

5/5 $10/hr time charge, 10%Rake $10Cap including pre.

对比这里的5/5$ 来看， 你这个似乎收的更多

联众提线木偶 发表于 2013-9-16 11:41
在哪里？有离box hill比较近的吗？

Burwood就有一个 民居里面的 2-3-6的 一般般

鲁智深 发表于 2013-9-17 04:12
这个抽水速度 ，高于国内某些城市的housegame 抽水速度 。

封顶低，还不算特别狠，我在皇冠一边玩一边算过，不是很高，再加上dealer发牌慢，不讲究国内house的效率，所以总体算下来很低

这个抽水速度 ，高于国内某些城市的housegame 抽水速度 。