大家來猜一下他是什麼牌吧...

SB: $291.00
Hero (BB): $341.00
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 6 A
6 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $2
Flop: ($8.00) 8 5 6 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $6
Turn: ($28.00) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, SB raises to $156, Hero requests TIME......

這是我最近打的一把牌，大家來猜一下他是什麼牌，還有這把牌的結果吧..

Some hands look nicer than what they really are, like nut flush draw + two pair. Facing such big turn raise, it is defnitely a fold. Shove is even worse, because he is not going anywhere when he puts half of his stack out there and you have 0 fold equity.  You are way behind anything he could raise with except bluff. sets, better two pair, straight/flushmade all have you crushed. If he is not a fish, fold.

[quote="unlimitspeed":1nsm9hhv]我一开始认为是baby flush，Q high也不算小了，嘿嘿。我觉得这手牌对手已经对你有很好的阅读了。turn上的shove表明，对手知道你手里有一张红心大过Q，他不想被bb.第一，在这里直接拿下是不错的选择。第二，你call上，river没有红心的话，你就会付出惨重代价了。whatever,u got lucky on the river.

他為什麼會知道我手上「只有」一張紅心，而且大過Q??我的打法不像我手上有二張紅心嗎??如果我手上是二個紅心的話我會怎麼打呢??

我說句心裡話，如果我手上真的有二個紅心(而且我有紅心A)，我在每一道街的打法會跟這把牌完全一樣，不會有任何差別；倒是如果我手上如果真的是baby flush或小flush draw的話，我在turn倒是有可能會fold。[/quote:1nsm9hhv]



      可能他这把牌看穿了你的底牌，技巧也很对路，他turn上的加注非常明确了，“这把牌到此为止，我拿下这个彩池就算了，我不想再冒风险了，你的牌有可能河牌后比我大，但是现在是我领先的！你放弃吧！”仅此而已至于你想allin的话，那么你是-EV的！

我一开始认为是baby flush，Q high也不算小了，嘿嘿。我觉得这手牌对手已经对你有很好的阅读了。turn上的shove表明，对手知道你手里有一张红心大过Q，他不想被bb.第一，在这里直接拿下是不错的选择。第二，你call上，river没有红心的话，你就会付出惨重代价了。whatever,u got lucky on the river.

他為什麼會知道我手上「只有」一張紅心，而且大過Q??我的打法不像我手上有二張紅心嗎??如果我手上是二個紅心的話我會怎麼打呢??

我說句心裡話，如果我手上真的有二個紅心(而且我有紅心A)，我在每一道街的打法會跟這把牌完全一樣，不會有任何差別；倒是如果我手上如果真的是baby flush或小flush draw的話，我在turn倒是有可能會fold。

You should fold after his reraise.. He plays well and you just got lucky in river.. I think he has known you don't have two hearts from your way of betting.

我一开始认为是baby flush，Q high也不算小了，嘿嘿。我觉得这手牌对手已经对你有很好的阅读了。turn上的shove表明，对手知道你手里有一张红心大过Q，他不想被bb.第一，在这里直接拿下是不错的选择。第二，你call上，river没有红心的话，你就会付出惨重代价了。whatever,u got lucky on the river.

first you say he bets too little flop.. now you said he bet too much on turn.. 呵呵.
no matter what i think he outplayed you on this hand but you sucked out. throughout he read it right that he is way ahead until river and you either didn't know what he has or you do but still shoved mistakenly.

沒有啊，因為這個牌我們二個人都是150bb，而且他在 SB 時pre-flop只打了2 bb，說真的如果不是他只打了2bb，如果他打的是3bb，或者他是sss，這個A6o我就直接扔了，我就是看他只打2bb我心存僥倖我才call進去的。

flop他下注1/2 pot，在ftp的nl200裡這是個很正常的下注(比live要低，但這是正常的)，並不是代表沒牌，也不是代表有牌，我的raise也是很正常的size，一般在這個level正常的下注及raise都是這個size，沒有什麼不正常的。

但他在turn的這個raise就非常不正常了，當時pot有$28我打$20大約2/3 pot這是很正常的，一般如果要做raise的話也是raise整個pot或多一點，也就是說$50-$80都是有道理的，但他打$156 !!!整整比正常的大小要多了一倍還有多，這代表什麼??他真的是同花嗎??我承認，在這裡我的mouse都已經移到fold那邊準備按下去了。

但我心中的魔鬼說：他想打走你，既然他想打走我，那我怎麼能讓他如意呢??就算我中計了我也不是一點希望都沒有。

如果這裡他是真的存心要這樣騙我，那我真的被他騙了，力害

哈哈,看来我猜对一半,没猜对结果,我猜是----可能一:对手是两个红心,hero call turn,river没红心,没A,没6,楼主悲剧
看来猜测楼主悲剧的确是个误区,嘿嘿

I disagree. He calls here. A lot of player could think he has a A or K high flush draw. If you have a set or even top pair. Would you have to bet and bet hard to get value of of his flush draw? plus plenty of semibluffs on turn. I think his plan works more often than not. It obviously worked this time as well.

也許吧，但是這種board.....我真的不會下注甚至我有set的時候，他的錢太多了，我會希望把pot控制小一點。

first you say he bets too little flop.. now you said he bet too much on turn.. 呵呵.
no matter what i think he outplayed you on this hand but you sucked out. throughout he read it right that he is way ahead until river and you either didn't know what he has or you do but still shoved mistakenly.