深筹 TURN上NS&&2rd NF能不能推？

深筹 TURN上NS&&2rd NF能不能推？
大发PLO5 一群小REG围着一条疯鱼绞杀，基本R每个POT，遭遇CR、R上重注时几乎都能支付。送了800多BB后稍有收敛。我400BB，在鱼下家。

BTN拿到KcQc6c9s,LP2家，疯鱼POT（鱼700多BB），我跟？？，SB BB补齐
F：7c8c4h,我买双头NF R&&2RD NF，SB BB让给鱼，POT，我跟？？SB跟（接近600BB），BB丢
T：Ad,SB让给鱼，继续POT， 我选择？

我偏紧，即便在BTN拿这类牌也仅仅是先CALL
看TURN再做计划，若是和FISH HU，和XXOO老师说的，可能就连抡3枪了
   

monox0 发表于 2013-2-10 20:56
i think now I understand your point.

I'll say yes(to raise flop), if it's

well, there's also lots of time when both of blinds fold and you get to play the big pot in position with the crazy fish.

riverismyfriend 发表于 2013-2-10 18:23
Call flop because
1. I don't think nut flush draw will fold. even against raise given this loosy ...

i think now I understand your point.

I'll say yes(to raise flop), if it's  <150bb  trying to gamble and fold the As if there is. but 400 bb, I don't want to raise and face diffuculty on the turn. say if you raise and both call, turn a club, cold caller donk, you will hate life .

多人池我只追坚果花和顺

monox0 发表于 2013-2-10 16:30
Call flop because
1. I don't think nut flush draw will fold. even against raise given this loosy ai ...

Call flop because
1. I don't think nut flush draw will fold. even against raise given this loosy air.
2. you won't get much fold respect.
3. the hands we have really not that strong multiway.
4. I'll raise flop if  HU or I get the at least KT9x cc

u said it's not a strong multiway hand and that's right, then why do you call instead of raising?  calling flop will encourge blinds to stay in the pot.

Call flop because
1. I don't think nut flush draw will fold. even against raise given this loosy air.
2. you won't get much fold respect.
3. the hands we have really not that strong multiway.
4. I'll raise flop if  HU or I get the at least KT9x cc

monox0 发表于 2013-2-10 10:04
In this very situation,I prefer calling flop and fold on the turn ,turn is really bad. Our odds ott  ...

with non nut combo draw that has great equtiy against current nuts, calling on the flop to create a multiway pot is really bad.

In this very situation,I prefer calling flop and fold on the turn ,turn is really bad. Our odds ott won't be good enough to get it in, and fold equity otf seems not high enough, u don't want to gamble 400bb against a fish ,we have better spot to catch.

monox0 发表于 2013-2-10 03:46
400bb are u serious?

ok maybe not, but def prefer raising than calling on the flop.