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傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-12-12 22:22:29 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
  我大概是城里唯一一个在2017年输钱的牌手.    输钱还写总结按说有点羞羞的, 好在脸皮不算薄.


3月份以后转打ZOOM 并且升级NL100, 从此陷入水深火热. 全年输了2000刀左右.  主要损失在于NL100挖了个天坑,10几天输5000刀,后来半年都爬不出来,一直在NL10-50挖矿.然后上去,再挖矿,再上去,如此循环.

技术方面,学了几个月GTO,半吊子瞎晃荡中.

为了面子上过得去, 一片漆黑中总结亮点如下:

1:打了54W手ZOOM(附图),大概20W是NL100.   54W手后钟形曲线是惨无人道的, 我怀疑以后还能不能见到这样的情况.   你们打这圈那圈被BB几次就瞎叫唤, 看看我这个,   我求着BB更猛烈些都求不来啊.  

很多人没用过PT4/HM2,可能理解不了54W手,击中偏离这么多是什么概念.  这是一段痛不欲生, 歇斯底里,生不如死的绝望.老子差点就没熬过来.  中间有那么一段时间,不想接触任何扑克的信息,当时打算把Y总的GTO帖子背下来细细研究,每次看两行就扔掉,想吐. 几个月时间一点进步都没有. 后来Wee大建议我停下来歇着, 我歇了个把月, 精神上算是缓过来了.

2:EV 偏离了1500刀.    最多时偏离2700刀,后来EV还回来1000刀的过程中我深度TILT,所以填坑没有成功.

EV线要是友善点,击中率能高一丢丢, 今年其实还是能盈利的. 唉,这么一想,我心里就舒坦了. 并非国军无能,实在是那什么太狡猾.

为什么一定发这张图?  因为可以侧面的衬托一下我还是有那么一点点技术的. 咱毕竟是谦虚的人,遮羞也要讲技术含量.

总结后评分如下:
成绩:       F
技战术:    D
韧性:       C
情绪控制:F
努力程度:B

展望一下明年.

实话实说,下半年感觉PS的整体水平是略有下降的, 胡抡的2B多了点.   明年还会再打一年ZOOM,  目标70万手牌,然后不管成绩如何,  以后转回到6MAX.
我感觉ZOOM这种形式不会存在太久了(中级别以上), 因为水平的差距正在飞速缩小, 最后都体现在谁的守盲水平更高,因为前面4个位置所有REGS都是盈利的,差别只在两个盲位.   

对明年的自己有一句话想说:"好好学习,努力打牌,狗屎运在等着你"
















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fuweidavid 发表于 2017-12-13 01:32:17 | 只看该作者
看了一些你的牌普,我觉得你要收敛下稳扎稳打。我今年年末算是打牌第二年,算是对打cash game稳字当头有了更深入的理解,也理解了带我入门的师傅为何告诉我要学会fold和check
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一条街价值诈频 发表于 2017-12-13 09:13:05 | 只看该作者
我2017整年PS升级也是输的~原因之一是牌看似打的太快其实质是大底池不会真正的全处理(正在改善)诈唬频率依旧过高,资金管理方面仍然有欠缺~后几个月似乎窥破了天机希望能保持下去~
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从2k到200k 发表于 2017-12-13 10:09:47 来自手机 | 只看该作者
楼主为什么要去ps苦熬呢,打国内的约局app怎么也比ps好打啊,我刚学德州就是在ps上打的,从nl1到nl50,都打过,但都是输钱,不过技术有提升,断断续续冲了20次超过5000刀,输光后觉得在ps上无利可图,就转打线下,发现自己ps上那么菜,线下却变成了他们眼中的鲨鱼,基本上稳定盈利,打牌两年娶了老婆,现在主打圈,虽然不是很好打,波动也大,但是总是一直盈利的,一个月随便搞个5-10万。我个人认为你在ps继续打是-ev的选择,
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一条街价值诈频 发表于 2017-12-13 10:17:38 | 只看该作者
我以为从长远来看必须义无反顾打下去!
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dearwinder 发表于 2017-12-13 11:51:38 | 只看该作者
能写出“看新poker after dark有感”这样帖子的选手,怎么会是非盈利玩家,如果是为了盈利,真心建议楼主打圈吧
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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-12-13 12:20:00 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 傻傻的鱼 于 2017-12-13 12:23 编辑
fuweidavid 发表于 2017-12-13 01:32
看了一些你的牌普,我觉得你要收敛下稳扎稳打。我今年年末算是打牌第二年,算是对打cash game稳字当头有了 ...

稳字确实非常非常重要,  我曾经是个稳如泰山的死NIT, 但是现在已经浪得停不下来了.   

浪也分不同的方式,   那些牌都是半年前的,   现在已经是不同的浪法.  

浪诈唬这方面已经有长足的进步, 成功率明显比过去高一丢丢,所以这个阶段已经过去了.



刚出炉的几手牌,
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 274.72 BB (VPIP: 28.51, PFR: 20.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.96, Hands: 1,719)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 156.92 BB (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 20.51, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 39)
UTG: 71.72 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 613.52 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 450.04 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  3 4

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.48 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8.44 BB, fold, CO calls 5.96 BB

Flop: (17.88 BB, 2 players)  5 Q J
Hero bets 5.12 BB, CO calls 5.12 BB

Turn: (28.12 BB, 2 players)  A
Hero bets 14 BB, CO calls 14 BB

River: (56.12 BB, 2 players)  7
Hero bets 72.44 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 53.6 BB

像这种诈唬我已经很少打了, 几天可能那么一两手.

现在更多的是这种诈唬:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 141.32 BB (VPIP: 21.49, PFR: 16.53, 3Bet Preflop: 5.05, Hands: 254)
SB: 104.4 BB
BB: 105.28 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 14)
UTG: 146.72 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
Hero (MP): 128.2 BB
CO: 118.76 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.97, 3Bet Preflop: 0.75, Hands: 316)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  9 T

fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (5.36 BB, 2 players)  5 K Q
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (21.36 BB, 2 players)  7
BB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

River: (45.36 BB, 2 players)  4
BB checks, Hero bets 105.72 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 43.32 BB


以前可能直接flop就干回去了, 现在策略不一样,  整体EV应该更高了.




PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 199.92 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.93, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 117)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: 112.6 BB (VPIP: 27.22, PFR: 20.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.25, Hands: 171)
Hero (UTG): 107.76 BB
MP: 174.84 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 21.62, 3Bet Preflop: 29.41, Hands: 41)
CO: 158.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  4 4

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players)  7 6 3
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Turn: (10.4 BB, 2 players)  K
BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, BB calls 10 BB

River: (30.4 BB, 2 players)  Q
BB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, fold

Hero wins 29.04 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 123.16 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
SB: 110.96 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 64.8 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
UTG: 123.64 BB (VPIP: 14.89, PFR: 6.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 47)
Hero (MP): 108.84 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.31, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 10.29, Hands: 150)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  2 2

fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.52 BB

Flop: (17.4 BB, 2 players)  J 6 5
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players)  4
Hero bets 5 BB, BTN calls 5 BB

River: (27.4 BB, 2 players)  6
Hero bets 16 BB, fold

Hero wins 26.16 BB

这手其实是在thin value, 因为我在这样的spot诈唬非常多, 所以把thin value的range放到非常thin.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 132.2 BB (VPIP: 17.20, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 94)
SB: 119.64 BB (VPIP: 14.34, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 2.97, Hands: 522)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.90, PFR: 13.41, 3Bet Preflop: 5.54, Hands: 2,225)
UTG: 122.24 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 117.56 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (CO): 228.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  7 9

fold, MP raises to 2.48 BB, Hero calls 2.48 BB, fold, SB raises to 11.6 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 9.12 BB

Flop: (26.68 BB, 2 players)  2 8 T
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (26.68 BB, 2 players)  2
SB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, SB calls 8 BB

River: (42.68 BB, 2 players)  8
SB checks, Hero bets 42 BB, SB calls 42 BB

Hero shows  7 9  (Two Pair, Eights and Twos)
(Pre 19%, Flop 24%, Turn 9%)
SB shows  J J  (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)
(Pre 81%, Flop 76%, Turn 91%)
SB wins 120.96 BB


总体来说,通过几十万手的磨炼,我在诈唬方面的漏洞,在微级别已经不太可能会被剥削, 所以这个技术暂时翻篇.

现在,浪到了另外一个阶段, 浪call.  估计还要几十万手,几十个买入的代价来磨炼.

浪call,也称鱼call

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.64 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (SB): 105.88 BB
BB: 60.32 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 172.72 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 34)
MP: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 65)
CO: 51.32 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 20)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.48 BB, Hero raises to 8.44 BB, fold, BTN calls 5.96 BB

Flop: (17.88 BB, 2 players)  K 5 6
Hero bets 5.12 BB, BTN raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 10.88 BB

Turn: (49.88 BB, 2 players)  2
Hero checks, BTN bets 25.2 BB, Hero calls 25.2 BB

River: (100.28 BB, 2 players)  3
Hero checks, BTN bets 80 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 56.24 BB and is all-in

BTN shows  3 4  (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 40%, Flop 37%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows  Q K  (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 60%, Flop 63%, Turn 0%)
BTN wins 204.76 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 187.32 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.01, PFR: 22.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 267)
UTG: 99.96 BB (VPIP: 43.48, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
Hero (MP): 186.32 BB
CO: 143.12 BB (VPIP: 19.47, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 114)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  T A

fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.52 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players)  A Q 4
SB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (43 BB, 2 players)  6
SB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

River: (87 BB, 2 players)  5
SB bets 57 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 57 BB

SB shows  Q Q  (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 72%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows  T A  (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 28%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 193 BB


现在,这种鱼call,我每天都要来几次.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 128 BB (VPIP: 23.73, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 16.00, Hands: 61)
SB: 143.2 BB
Hero (BB): 186.44 BB
UTG: 130.8 BB (VPIP: 17.09, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 123)
MP: 105.08 BB (VPIP: 25.26, PFR: 19.74, 3Bet Preflop: 12.41, Hands: 390)
CO: 42.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  T A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players)  8 A 5
SB bets 1.72 BB, Hero calls 1.72 BB

Turn: (9.44 BB, 2 players)  J
SB bets 2.72 BB, Hero calls 2.72 BB

River: (14.88 BB, 2 players)  5
SB bets 18.48 BB, Hero calls 18.48 BB

SB shows  7 9  (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 36%, Flop 20%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows  T A  (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 64%, Flop 80%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 49.52 BB



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 227.2 BB (VPIP: 32.14, PFR: 27.68, 3Bet Preflop: 12.79, Hands: 229)
SB: 415.68 BB (VPIP: 37.52, PFR: 22.61, 3Bet Preflop: 8.93, Hands: 1,276)
Hero (BB): 103.68 BB
UTG: 110.52 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 103.04 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 106.56 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  K K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, MP calls 12 BB, fold, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (48 BB, 3 players)  Q 6 5
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (48 BB, 3 players)  Q
SB bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB, fold

River: (104 BB, 2 players)  5
SB bets 65 BB, Hero calls 60.68 BB and is all-in

SB shows  8 A  (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 32%, Flop 16%, Turn 7%)
Hero shows  K K  (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 84%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 217.36 BB



鱼call对了,那是hero call.   这种hero call每天也得有.  

因为像这种对手实在不少:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 30.64 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 24.36, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 80)
SB: 144.48 BB (VPIP: 25.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.23, Hands: 307)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.80, PFR: 17.49, 3Bet Preflop: 3.19, Hands: 227)
UTG: 254.48 BB (VPIP: 21.82, PFR: 19.28, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 485)
MP: 450.04 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
Hero (CO): 124.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has  Q 2

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, SB calls 2.08 BB, fold

Flop: (5.96 BB, 2 players)  K 5 6
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.96 BB, 2 players)  8
SB bets 3.12 BB, Hero calls 3.12 BB

River: (12.2 BB, 2 players)  4
SB bets 8.72 BB, Hero raises to 26 BB, SB raises to 138.88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 92.52 BB and is all-in

SB shows  A J  (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 63%, Flop 75%, Turn 68%)
Hero shows  Q 2  (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 37%, Flop 25%, Turn 32%)
Hero wins 241.24 BB


这手和seiver打Kruk这手是不是有点像.   



从紧弱--紧凶--松凶-松浪(现阶段)--最后可能回归到适度松紧. 那时候我差不多就可以出师了.


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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-12-13 12:29:19 | 只看该作者
一条街价值诈频 发表于 2017-12-13 09:13
我2017整年PS升级也是输的~原因之一是牌看似打的太快其实质是大底池不会真正的全处理(正在改善)诈唬频率 ...

你不用数据软件,那怎么行呢,  自己的漏洞都没有分析的依据
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 楼主| 傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-12-13 12:33:36 | 只看该作者
dearwinder 发表于 2017-12-13 11:51
能写出“看新poker after dark有感”这样帖子的选手,怎么会是非盈利玩家,如果是为了盈利,真心建议楼主打 ...

太抬举我了,       技术上还有不少短板,   没敢想挣钱的事.     发过宏愿, 不碾压NL100就哪儿都不去, 死磕.
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从2k到200k 发表于 2017-12-13 12:39:40 来自手机 | 只看该作者
傻傻的鱼 发表于 2017-12-13 12:33
太抬举我了,       技术上还有不少短板,   没敢想挣钱的事.     发过宏愿, 不碾压NL100就哪儿都不去, 死 ...

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