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本帖最后由 nicky1234 于 2013-1-11 21:01 编辑
Howard 发表于 2013-1-11 14:32
这可不一定。
如果纯粹考虑chip EV,我们的牌是第18%好的牌,小盲对手会拿着前25%跟入。那么他一旦跟入 ...
LOL this is so fxxxing bullsxxx and i even doubt u know anything about ICM in tournament poker. Here you go for the lesson
Firstly, ICM normally applies to hero when he's the one who is facing a shove in late stage of a tournament. It doesnt matter when hero is the one who needs to decide shoving or not. Plus,we dont consider ICM in this spot cos hero is the shortest stack thus we should ONLY be making +cEV play. as in this case, it's quite complicated maths but i can leave the calculation for u maths guys.(and yeah, be a genius pls do the maths, it's impossible to do )
also, when u are shoving JTs knowing SB will call 25% while BB will call 35%, it's not a fxxxing bluff, it's a value shove. Why? cos we are ahead of their calling range. wtf is that when they call us 18/25 the time they will have a better hand thus it's a bluff bet? so according to your theory we need to shove top 12.5% for this to be a value shove???NO SIR, we simply need to shove 24.9% for this to be a value shove, oh wait, actually higher ,cos BB's calling 35%, so we should be shoving somewhere between 25-35% but again im no maths wizard .
PLUS,若是考虑money EV,那就又差了一层。我们能推的范围就要更紧。
GZZZZ, u shove wider as a short stack but call tighter . also as i said above, there's almost no money EV to consider in this spot as we are the shortest stack by miles.
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