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怎样利用notes 来narrow 对手range

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windstormm 发表于 2011-1-6 00:32:27 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
转一个我在XXXbbs 发的帖。 很多regs, live or on-line have a lot of tells in their bet sizing.  观察仔细一点,很容易读出他们的牌的,  我们就可以把reg 也当鱼抓了, A.K.A. FishReg.

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对手是个tight reg. 1.3k hand history with vpip 11 6 2.3 (play 11% of hand, raise 6%, 3 bet 2.3%)
one of the notes i have on him
"3 bet with pocket Js and check set flop... and pot turn and pot river"

I 3 bet this hand preflop with AQo to isolate MP. Villian flat behind.  He is pretty tight. so he can have JJ QQ AK KK, maybe 1010 KQs and AA. I suspect him to 4 bet most of the time with AA  KK. So these two hand needs to weight less in the range especially AA.

Now on the flop, i didn't hit anything. Vs villian's range, I didn't have much fold equity. He also had fold to c bet 45%, so I was just going to check and give up. he checked behind.

Turn I made top pair, MP check again so i didn't think he had anything. I bet to protect my equity in the pot.  Villian calls. MP folds. River made a flush but otherwise was a blank. I checked (can't seem to get called by worse except KQ. I can also induce some bluffs since my hand is under reped and played like AK.). villian bets half pot. He could have AhKh here or set. But my notes says that he slow play flopped sets but turn on aggression on turn and river. I suspect him to raise me with sets on turn with QQ JJ and probably pot river. with a nut flush, he would also bet pot size for value. With these notes, a lot of hands that beat me down-weighted, JJ QQ AhKh. Since there was only 3 combo of AA out there which he would 4 bet pre most of the time.  The most likely hand he could have is KK with some really
really thin value bet. The rest are bluffs and hands I beat. So I called and he showed a bluff.

Regs has a lot of tell in their sizing. Use it to your advantage.

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Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -

UTG+2: $34.00
MP1: $123.55
Hero (MP2): $100.00
CO: $108.55
BTN: $125.65
SB: $140.70
BB: $141.70
UTG: $40.00
UTG+1: $431.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with A Q
3 folds, MP1 raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $10, 3 folds, MP1
calls $7

Flop: ($31.50) 5 J 2 (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($31.50) Q(3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $14.00, CO calls $14, MP1 folds

River: ($59.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30.00, Hero calls $30

Final Pot: $119.50
Hero shows A Q
CO shows A K
Hero wins $116.50
(Rake: $3.00)
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RichZhu 发表于 2011-1-6 01:16:57 | 只看该作者
转一个我在XXXbbs 发的帖。 很多regs, live or on-line have a lot of tells in their bet sizing.  观察仔 ...
windstormm 发表于 2011-1-6 00:32


mitbbs? 智游城刚起步的时候多少也得到mitbbs朋友们的光顾与帮助,所以智游城从来不介意提到mitbbs。
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Mirabelle 发表于 2011-1-6 01:46:35 | 只看该作者
我记得这里貌似是叫 中文智力游戏论坛...
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RichZhu 发表于 2011-1-6 02:02:10 | 只看该作者
我记得这里貌似是叫 中文智力游戏论坛...
Mirabelle 发表于 2011-1-6 01:46


可能这位朋友刚来,误解我上面的意思了。智游城在管理尺度上有个逐渐变化的过程,上面提到的意思其实是说我们对mitbbs一直在尺度上相对宽松。其实其他论坛也一样,比如最大的扑克论坛2+2,他们对不同网站信息的管理尺度也不同。当然,每个网站在处理这类问题的考虑不同,但确实有个共识或礼尚往来的考量。
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Mirabelle 发表于 2011-1-6 02:04:38 | 只看该作者
管理员误解我的意思了

这里是中文论坛,楼主整天飙英文,很没意思啊

假洋鬼子觉得自己很高贵?
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 楼主| windstormm 发表于 2011-1-6 02:23:25 | 只看该作者
管理员误解我的意思了

这里是中文论坛,楼主整天飙英文,很没意思啊

假洋鬼子觉得自己很高贵? ...
Mirabelle 发表于 2011-1-6 02:04


这位兄弟可能英文不好。。 不过不要自卑。。 其实我的英文也不好。。。 您老不愿意看英文的请绕道走。 城中很多中文帖的,内容都比这精彩很多。
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RichZhu 发表于 2011-1-6 02:31:02 | 只看该作者
管理员误解我的意思了

这里是中文论坛,楼主整天飙英文,很没意思啊

假洋鬼子觉得自己很高贵? ...
Mirabelle 发表于 2011-1-6 02:04


哦,这位朋友可能还是因为新来,有些不太了解情况。风暴在国外呆的时间比较长,好像他的中文输入也比较慢,再加上他可能常常是在上班的时候发帖子,机器的设置未必很放便,所以英文会多一些。以前也有其他朋友提过,如果是中文可能效果会更好些,风暴好像也逐渐在他觉得特别需要说明的地方尽量多用中文,其他地方仍以自己比较舒服的方式使用英文。具体这个帖子,他应该是从mitbbs转过来的,那里的英文使用更频繁,所以倒也正常。
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yluulv 发表于 2011-1-6 02:31:38 | 只看该作者
绕道走了。
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RichZhu 发表于 2011-1-6 02:32:40 | 只看该作者
这位兄弟可能英文不好。。 不过不要自卑。。 其实我的英文也不好。。。 您老不愿意看英文的请绕道走。 城 ...
windstormm 发表于 2011-1-6 02:23


晕。风暴,你不会又要发飙了吧?
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donot 发表于 2011-1-6 04:07:12 | 只看该作者
风暴太牛了。 我说我怎么总不明白高手为什么这么打,有这么多背后的故事。

中文输入也比较慢,再加上他可能常常是在上班的时候发帖子,机器的设置未必很放便,

Rich好人呀,理解万岁。
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