Live Cash一手牌请教打法

看了各位高手讲解大受启发，也谈谈现场的考虑：

fold: 感觉很难～

call: 像墙兄说的slow play打法很有启发性，不过这把牌没有位置, 要是被动check-call，如果出了diamond或对方2pair/set check turn难从对手榨很多钱，估计也就赢个50-60左右，而对手领先或抽成更大牌要输光120,　赢小输大的买卖会不会不划算?

raise: 考虑到stack大小, 基本等于发出allin邀请了，如果对方领先那肯定all了, 对方要跟话也committed, 对他也就fold/allin二选一了。

allin: 让自己彻底committed，同时比raise多点点对方fold的可能性. 所以当时直接就选择推allin了。

howard说的raise到55也很有启发，还得好好琢磨和allin 哪个相对更好～

同样的flolp，如果自己手上是top 2 pair 或 set 不知大家有没高见如何打比较好?  

感觉这些都是最难受的情况了，如果３人以上进pot中set基本就不扔了，不过剩２人时候这样flop不知大家会如何处理?

这把牌sb弃牌，我是第一个行动，和bet那人中间就剩个小筹码的。

且不说后面还有几个人（3个人？）没行动，自己的处境很危险。

這個牌怎麼會去有 fold 牌的想法呢??如果這種牌都 fold  那什麼牌不要 fold 呢??

這是拿著同花連牌幾乎滿分的 board 了，還能要求什麼，除了順子是小的之外，flop 就中順子還帶同花的redraw，這種牌連 fold 牌的想法都不能有，如果對手拿著QdKd 我會很高興的把全部的錢輸給他，但這機會也太低太低了吧。

這個牌如果是我的話我會計畫在 turn 來 all-in 他，所以我會在 flop raise 他但也許不會太多，反正目標那麼明確，那打法就很簡單了，不要想太多。

我想知道你当时为什么第一反应是check？而不是bet？you don't worry about everybody check around on flop? if this happened, and turn card is Q, K, what's your plan?

For this one, my first poped action is bet directly, for two reasons.

ok, if you choose to check, and this guy bet 20 on 15 pot, what's your idea about his hand range? this is a 7 way pot, and he is betting 20, a little bit over pot size. in my mind, his action showed he want to take the pot right there, and he should not bet for bluffing, maybe, but very few chance in multi-way pot, unless you knew this guy very well. So, his hand range should be pretty good made hand, made straight, set, two pairs, plus some good semi-bluff good drawing hands?

anyway, this is the one reason i don't like to check here. ok,  what's next

嗯，很有价值的见解～

这手牌当时是第一个action, before flop check in blind了～

不过感觉flop直接凑成的小顺子和小flush在多人pot情况都常是赢少输大的牌，没熟悉对手前也不想打太大。

再就是扣除10%的抽水+dealer小费+badbeat pot,　直接拿下pot也没多少油水～

如果都check around感觉也是不错结果，出来Q/K就先按flush draw来打，再看river对手数量和下注情况看是否跟，毕竟那时才投入10个左右BB,　撤退也从容。

我想知道你当时为什么第一反应是check？而不是bet？you don't worry about everybody check around on flop? if this happened, and turn card is Q, K, what's your plan?

For this one, my first poped action is bet directly, for two reasons.

ok, if you choose to check, and this guy bet 20 on 15 pot, what's your idea about his hand range? this is a 7 way pot, and he is betting 20, a little bit over pot size. in my mind, his action showed he want to take the pot right there, and he should not bet for bluffing, maybe, but very few chance in multi-way pot, unless you knew this guy very well. So, his hand range should be pretty good made hand, made straight, set, two pairs, plus some good semi-bluff good drawing hands?

anyway, this is the one reason i don't like to check here. ok,  what's next

嗯，很有价值的见解～

这手牌当时是第一个action, before flop check in blind了～

不过感觉flop直接凑成的小顺子和小flush在多人pot情况都常是赢少输大的牌，没熟悉对手前也不想打太大。

再就是扣除10%的抽水+dealer小费+badbeat pot,　直接拿下pot也没多少油水～

如果都check around感觉也是不错结果，出来Q/K就先按flush draw来打，再看river对手数量和下注情况看是否跟，毕竟那时才投入10个左右BB,　撤退也从容。

[quote="alexallwin":ww32um7m]我想知道你当时为什么第一反应是check？而不是bet？you don't worry about everybody check around on flop? if this happened, and turn card is Q, K, what's your plan?

For this one, my first poped action is bet directly, for two reasons.

ok, if you choose to check, and this guy bet 20 on 15 pot, what's your idea about his hand range? this is a 7 way pot, and he is betting 20, a little bit over pot size. in my mind, his action showed he want to take the pot right there, and he should not bet for bluffing, maybe, but very few chance in multi-way pot, unless you knew this guy very well. So, his hand range should be pretty good made hand, made straight, set, two pairs, plus some good semi-bluff good drawing hands?

anyway, this is the one reason i don't like to check here. ok, what's next

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你的思路有些问题呀。


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