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标题: 发一手牌，bottom Set on Dry flop [打印本页]

作者: youngtercel 时间: 2012-7-17 04:03
标题: 发一手牌，bottom Set on Dry flop
1/2 live

HERO 22 with 600$ behind at button.

a young guy Short Stack (SS, 150$) raise to 15$ from EP, LOOSE Aggressive guy (LAG) call with 700$, HERO call.

FLOP K 5 2 Rainbow.

SS bet 25$, LAG min-raise to 50$, HERO made it to 150$ (??)

SS fold .. LAG thinking....HERO talked: (???) "You got ... AK ?"

LAG: "No, I am ahead, i have a SET......I am all in"

HERO...............

LAG: "you have AK?"

HERO: "i guess that is what you have..."

LAG (Firmly):" no, i don't have AK, i have a SET."

HERO:" Will you show me if i fold?"

LAG not answering.

What will you do?

作者: sama 时间: 2012-7-17 05:10
除非對手是一如你標籤這樣亂來的LAG,否則我傾向FOLD..呵呵,我是FOLD machine

對手在preflop call raise,flop在牌面有k和後面還有人的情況下mini raise一個short stack,首先他不介意跟short stack賭光,而且也給short stack空間去call他的raise,但你橫空一下3bet 150在這樣干的牌面上,在我的閱讀裏你是很強很強的牌,但你的對手再4BET ALL IN你,他一定可以WIN AK才這樣做.考慮牌面的結構和籌碼量,我認為只有AA/KK/55/K5才會這樣做

作者: youngtercel 时间: 2012-7-17 05:25
AA/KK/55/K5才會這樣做:

First, AA and KK are very less possible cause this guy will almost always 3 Bet with them pre.

and KK are simply impossible, because WHY WANT TO TELL ME he got the set if he actually got the nuts?

anyway AA and K5 are not worry me. that left me only with 55.

Again WHY WANT TO TELL ME IN VERBAL he got the set if he actually got the middle set? he know i don't have KK (or there is no point to say anything if i do have KK)

You only try to convince ppl like this IF you DON'T have a monster, not when you actually have it. That is way suspicious...

作者: sama 时间: 2012-7-17 05:34

youngtercel 发表于 2012-7-17 05:25
AA/KK/55/K5才會這樣做:

First, AA and KK are very less possible cause this guy will almost always 3 ...

AA/KK我有時作為第一個CALLER,籌碼太深時我會先CALL一下的,這個是給後面的人一個ACTION的機會.這個你要看對手玩了多久POKER才可以判斷.新手除非玩得很差會LIMP AA/KK,但會玩一點的新/中手基乎不會這樣做,玩得好旳老手是絕對有這種可能的(JIMMYKING和我都經常做)

告訴你中SET是因為很多人不慣開著眼說大話,他們告訴你是因為認為你不會相信,反正你有牌一樣會CALL,沒牌一樣會FOLD.其實我更偏信于對手說明自己有SET之後ALL IN...

作者: 不会打比赛 时间: 2012-7-17 08:23
这牌要是还能fold，那真成了fold machine了。你只输55一手牌。但是你赢的牌就太多了。一个松的对手，可能拿着各种奇奇怪怪的两对，把你放在AK上跟你拼命。这牌，我想都不想就接了。

作者: shisfc0603 时间: 2012-7-17 08:45
基本fold不掉

作者: atubo_beep 时间: 2012-7-17 09:20
闭着眼睛跟，不要尝试躲cooler。

作者: sama 时间: 2012-7-18 19:05
呵呵，這手牌you應該有跟上吧，結果是怎样？

作者: mousoeng 时间: 2012-7-18 23:33

其实从结果倒推回去事前分析和做决定的过程是否正确意义不大吧...

虽然我也很有兴趣知道有没有开出55...

作者: sama 时间: 2012-7-19 12:44

mousoeng 发表于 2012-7-18 23:33
其实从结果倒推回去事前分析和做决定的过程是否正确意义不大吧...

虽然我也很有兴趣知道有没有开出55... ...

這手牌我沒有從結果分析呀！我一開始己經說明了我的想法了
這手牌我認爲有幾個重點使我扔
preflop call raise而不是raiser
flop 後位還有人時mini raise一個短籌碼
告诉後位3 bet的人有set而不是AK

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