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标题: 精彩牌例欣赏---Golfond对durrrr的一手牌 [打印本页]

作者: RichZhu    时间: 2011-1-31 11:50
标题: 精彩牌例欣赏---Golfond对durrrr的一手牌
这是本版置顶的Phil Hellmuth专栏今天更新的文章,谈的是今年第一个星期poker after dark的一手牌。有些朋友好像不是太看置顶的帖子,所以我给转到这里。
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Poker After Dark Galfond vs. Durrrr

This hand comes from Week 1 of the 2011 version of NBC’s “Poker After Dark.”  The six handed lineup featured some great players, both old school (Huck Seed, John Juanda, Phil Ivey, Erick “Edog” Lindgren) and new school (Tom “Durrrr” Dwan, Phil Galfond), and the format was a $100,000 buy in sit-and-go; winner-take-all.  You can find this exciting hand on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVLwShjnNk0  This is the first time I have included a link to hand in my column, and I view this as a nod to the modern world!
With $600,000 in chips in play Durrrr had amassed $248,000, Phil Ivey was sitting in second place with $134,000 in chips, Galfond had $121,000, and Huck Seed was sitting on $97,000 in chips.  With the blinds at $1,500-$3,000 Durrrr opened under the gun for $7,000 with Ad-5d, Ivey folded on the button, Galfond peered down at A-K and raised it up from the small blind making it $19,500 to go, and Huck Seed found A-Q in the big blind.  At this point a lot of viewers must have been nervous for Seed, but somehow Seed managed to make a good read and fold A-Q to the aggressive youngsters.  Durrrr called $12,500 more, and the flop came down 9h-3s-2s.

With $42,000 in the pot, Galfond bet out $17,000, and Durrrr decided to move all in!  Galfond had $84,500 left, and he decided to call.  With the chip lead on the line ($246,000 in the pot), Durrrr needed a five or a four.  The turn card was a seven and the river was a ten, and Galfond had the chip lead.

Let’s take a closer look at this hand.  Durrrr’s $7,000 min-raise is OK (the new school players like to keep their raises right above or at the min-raise level), and Galfond’s $12,500 reraise into a $17,000 pot is roughly a 75% of the pot reraise, and this is a little above the new school standard of 60% of the pot.  Durrrr’s $12,500 pre-flop call with Ad-5d is fine as he had position on Galfond.  But when you at home decide to make a call like that with A-5 suited, be careful not to blow all of your chips when you hit an ace, or a five.  But also be careful that you don’t fold the best hand either!  What I’m saying is that calling a reraise with A-5 suited is not great spot for an amateur to be in.  Making that call can lead to some very tricky situations on the flop.

I like Galfond’s $17,000 bet into the $42,000 pot on the flop.  Making a C-bet (continuation bet – where you bet on the flop no matter what hits after making the last raise pre-flop) is standard and 40% of the size of the pot is reasonable.  Durrrr’s all in move here was a strong move.  Presumably Durrrr thought that Galfond did not have an over pair and thus he thought that Galfond might fold A-K, or A-Q, or A-J; or that Galfond might have a hand like K-Q.

Galfond’s $84,500 all in call with A-K high was a great one!  With the blinds at $1,500 - $3,000 and $84,500 left in his stack, Galfond could have easily folded his hand and he still would have had 28 big blinds left in his stack: plenty of bullets to come back and win from.  If Durrrr had a pair like 4-4, or 9d-8d, then Galfond’s A-K would have been in bad shape (a clear fold).  So Galfond’s call came down to whether or not he thought that his A-K high was still the best hand.  Galfond thought it was, and he was right!  One factor that made Galfond’s call a little bit easier was that there were a lot of draws possible out there (straight draws and a flush draw were possible on this flop), and he was a favorite over most drawing hands.
作者: greatsunkai    时间: 2011-1-31 12:08
嗯,昨天晚上看了,挺精彩的。
作者: sama    时间: 2011-1-31 12:31
本帖最后由 sama 于 2011-1-31 12:33 编辑

我覺得他第一手27s很有問題的,flop call不可以說有什麼問題,turn為什麼不在durrrr check之後下注?他那個時候下注有機會bet out 中間的對子或k9那些,而且也建了pot,如果沒中也可以show down
作者: dolphin    时间: 2011-2-1 10:40
本帖最后由 dolphin 于 2011-2-1 14:40 编辑

感觉这段儿很精彩,主要是Golfond的call。Golfond不会call Eli的allin,但会call durrrr的,因为Durrrr bluff的频率比较高,也许在Live里Galfond有read,即使没有read,如果durrrr只是draw,或者一对,Golfond的情况总的来说不会太差。。。总之最后durrrr去疗伤了。。。这个game结束没有?

今天看到一段the big game 很好的录像,Phil Hellmuth 真是个倒楣蛋儿,一下子没有在youtube找到视频。。。
作者: pokerbean    时间: 2011-2-1 10:57
回复 4# dolphin


    结束了 huck seed 赢了Ivey, 最后一把88对66,翻牌出俩8。
作者: 不会打比赛    时间: 2011-2-1 23:16
筹码这么短?是比赛吗?
作者: dolphin    时间: 2011-2-1 23:38
筹码这么短?是比赛吗?
不会打比赛 发表于 1/2/2011 10:16


Poker after dark, 象hsp 一样的high stakes poker电视节目,只不过这次规矩改了,要在六人中决出第一名,豆子说huck seed最后quads 8 赢了ivey。。。 我还没来得急看。
作者: 德州新人    时间: 2011-2-2 19:48
目前只下了第一周的,第2周好像就是现金局了。
作者: dolphin    时间: 2011-2-7 03:23
回复 1# RichZhu

天黑之后扑克:Galfond 迎战 Durrrr

这手牌出自2011版NBC的“天黑之后扑克”。六人座的比赛,排列了一些最好的牌手,包括传统派(Huck Seed, John Juanda, Phil Ivey, Erick\"Edog\" Lindgren)和新派(Tom \"Durrrr\" Dwan, Phil Galfond), 比赛形式为$100,000买入的单桌比赛(Sit-and-go); 决出一个赢者(Winner-take-all)。 你可以在youtube看到这手精彩牌局:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVLwShjnNk0 。这是我第一次在我的专栏中引用链接,在我看来这是向现代世界打招呼!

桌上共有 $600,000 筹码,Durrrr积攒了$248,000, Phil Ivey有 $134,000 筹码第二, Galfond有$121,000,最后是Huck Seed坐拥$97,000 筹码。 大小盲为 $1,500-$3,000,Durrrr 在枪口位手拿Ad-5d叫牌$7000, Ivey在纽扣位弃牌,Galfond低头一看,A-K,于是在小盲位加注到$19000,Huck Seed在大盲位拿到A-Q。此刻许多观众一定为Seed担心,但是Seed还是读牌准确,面对年轻凶手他弃了自己的A-Q。Durrrr又投入$12500应叫,翻牌为9h-3s-2s。

这时锅里有$42000,Galfond叫牌$17000,Durrrr决定全进(ALLIN)! Galfond只剩$84,500 筹码,他决定应叫。这时锅里有$246,000,Durrrr需要一个4或者5才能赢。转牌是7,河牌是10, 结果是Galfond赢了,筹码领先。

让我们来仔细看看这手牌。Durrrr的$7,000小加注还可以(新派牌手喜欢做比最小加注稍微高一点点的加注),Galfond的$12,500加注到$17,000的锅里,大约是锅的75%,比一般新派牌手的标准60%再加注稍额微多了些。Durrrr的$12,500翻牌前应交还好,因为他对Galfond来说,有位置。但是如果你自己在家里玩儿,决定用同花A-5应叫时,当你中了A或者5时,小心不要让所有的筹码都随风而去了。但是还要小心,你也不能把赢牌弃了!我的意思是说,对于新手来说,用同花A-5来应叫一个加注,不是一个好决定。如果应叫了,在翻牌上会遇到一些非常复杂的情况。

翻牌上,我喜欢Galfond的$17,000叫牌,这时锅里有$42,000。做一个40%锅的大小的续叫(C-bet)(如果你是翻牌前最后一个加注的,无论翻牌怎样,翻牌后继续叫牌)是合理的。 Durrrr的全进(ALLIN)举动是非常强的动作,假设Durrrr认为Galfond没有超对,那么Galfond可能会弃掉A-K,A-Q,或者A-J,也许Galfond的牌是K-Q这样类似的。

Galfond以A-K高牌,$84,500筹码来应叫非常精彩!当时大小盲为 $1,500 - $3,000 ,他还有$84,500筹码剩下,Galfond可以很轻易地弃牌,那么他还有28个大盲剩下:有足够多的子弹来恢复生机。 如果Durrrr的牌是4-4,或者9d-8d,那么Galfond的A-K高牌就很糟糕了(明显的要弃牌)。 所以Galfond的应叫就由他是否认为他的A-K高牌为当时最好的牌来决定了。Galfond认为是的,并且他是正确的! 有一个原因让Galfond的应叫稍微容易了些,那就是牌面上有很多听牌的可能性(在这样的翻牌上,顺子听牌和同花听牌都有可能),并且对于听牌来说,他是占优势的。
作者: 阿穆    时间: 2011-2-7 06:07
很精彩 看了2遍了 high stakes S7不知道什么时候出 每次看视频都有新的灵感和思路
作者: aSwill    时间: 2011-2-14 00:51
回复 4# dolphin

Good job!girl~
作者: sama    时间: 2011-3-4 12:18
RICH朱或者其他高手可以解釋一下Golfond 27s那手牌嗎?我始終覺得很有問題,難道Golfond打算用27s來捉durrrr river的bluff嗎?
作者: Howard    时间: 2011-3-5 15:54
Galfond自己对AKo vs A5s这手牌的解释,来自director‘s cut那一集:

1. preflop,他很满意dwan是preflop raiser,因为galfond自己image(自称)较紧,未曾有什么3bet,如果ivey或者seed是raiser,可能会fold,但dwan很了解galfond,知道他3bet range宽的很,所以很可能call甚至shove。

2. flop的17K c-bet:基本上自己所有的3bet range都会做这样一个bet。针对这手牌,dwan很多call 3bet的牌都会完全错过,例如QTs,KQo,故此很有能丢牌;除非他是slow player的AA/KK/JJ 之类

3. 跟对手102K AI:到此已经完全是数学问题,他觉得自己可能是6个out: AAAKKK外带后门K high同花听牌,或者跟对手的flushdraw coinflip,但是又补充道,如果对手是A4,A5,自己占非常大的优势,而A4/A5完全在对手range之内,正是这一点,使他的决定倾向于call。事实证明galfond的推断是很有道理的。

看director cut里面牌手自述能看出牌手思路很大的区别。向galfond这样的,思路清晰,逻辑丝毫不差,对对手range理解准确,这样的家伙是很可怕的。反之看elezra,laak,brunson之类的,虽然他们也可能是赢家,但真的说不出啥东东来,跟他们很难学到。
作者: horsewolf    时间: 2011-3-6 10:26
学习了,感谢DOLPHIN的翻译。




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