actually this is something I have been thinking lately. when the flop is semi dry/wet you got raise with TPTK. What do you do here when he raise you c bet. Lets say you are out of position. everyone iwth 100$ stack
EP you raise AcKh 3$. co call. everyoe fold
flop is Kc7s5s.
you c bet 4$ with tptk.. he raise to 12$.. what do you do here?
3 bet or just call.. if 3 bet he calls what do you do? if you 3 bet and he come over the top all in do you get it in?
if you call what do you do on turn?
discussion and reasoning?
请大家踊跃发言。。。
i usually call and check and reevaluate turn. but this is very weak play. I hate it..作者: yacaimei 时间: 2010-8-25 04:59
If u 3 bet flop, probably u should be ready to go with it. 3 bet flop then fold is very bad IMO.作者: windstormm 时间: 2010-8-25 05:11
3 bet and fold is very bad. i totally agree. but if I call what do we do on turn and river. Are we calling off the whole stack if the flush card doesn't come? or are we calling turn and fold river shove?作者: fafafafefe 时间: 2010-8-25 06:17
我觉得跟牌再看trun比较好,这么打是很弱,但是3-bet flop好像有点违背小牌小锅的原则。
如果能加入对对手的解读可能更好判断。作者: nicky1234 时间: 2010-8-25 12:33
it totally depends on the villian. On this board, we prob need to include AK in our 3bet/call range,otherwise our 3bet/call range is going to be set and random two pair (well,if u don't wanna get in AK here then u won't get in AA here also cos it's bascially the same hand on this board).
anyways it's kinda tough to deal with this kind of situation in general, i would prefer to flat if i m in position tho. But oop,mehh....作者: skizzik 时间: 2010-8-25 14:14
恩 很好的一个讨论,往往这种时候是我们的大难题
对手的类型很重要,他的AF,他的VP/PFR都会决定我们的走向
我在那边论坛发过两手AA,一手直接fold,一手3bet get in作者: lisa 时间: 2010-8-25 15:01
沉思一下。作者: yacaimei 时间: 2010-8-25 15:37 回复 7#lisa
日记帖里面写的,那时候还挺简略的,不是完整的牌局分析帖作者: kktao 时间: 2010-8-26 06:14
這手牌,我位置不好,他3 bet我AK,像這樣有 draw的牌面,我會選擇 all in。作者: 清都山水郎 时间: 2010-8-26 22:11
如果是cash game,我可能会call and check turn, prepare to fold。
如果是MTT前期,我会3bet做大pot。如果是MTT中后期,我会call and bet half pot turn if no flush card comes