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作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-6 05:14
标题: 懒人的hand review
本帖最后由 focuseric 于 2010-5-6 05:38 编辑

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 13 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (UTG) (t2875)
Button (t3400)
SB (t1625)
BB (t1100)

Hero's M: 38.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ad, Ah
Hero bets t100, Button calls t100, 1 fold, BB calls t50

Flop: (t325) 6s, Jh, Qc (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, Button calls t150, BB calls t150

Turn: (t775) 2h (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

River: (t775) 10d (3 players)
BB bets t350, Hero calls t350, 1 fold

Total pot: t1475

Results:
BB had 10s, Jd (two pair, Jacks and tens).
Hero mucked Ad, Ah (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won t1475

Turn check的目的是让BB在river上诈唬，以及pot control。

BB river bet的时候，我从他pre-flop的flat call来看，他有AK的可能不大。

加上他call flop, check turn，他最有可能hit flop，但是牌力不强。

如果他hit flop，

我可以打败的range是JK (12)，JA (3)，QK (12)，QA (3) = 30 combos。
被击败的range是TJ （9）, JQ（9） = 18 combos。
再加上个10%的bluff，
我的winning percent - 18/48 + 10% = 22.8/48 > 350/1125

turn上pot control，导致在river上没有输太大。但是同时给了BB free card。真是成也萧何败也萧何啊

。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-6 05:44
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 13 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) (t3025)
BB (t2775)
UTG (t1800)
Button (t1400)

Hero's M: 40.33

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7c, 10c
2 folds, Hero bets t100, BB calls t50

Flop: (t200) 3h, Jc, 9h (2 players)
Hero bets t100, BB calls t100

Turn: (t400) Qc (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (t400) 3s (2 players)
Hero bets t200, 1 fold

Total pot: t400

Results:
Hero didn't show 7c, 10c (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won t400

Pre-flop: 偷BB。

Flop: CBet。BB raise我就投降。

Turn: 彻底放弃。BB bet我就投降。

River: 他有了两个busted flush draw。下注1/2 pot买他33% fold percent。

作者: skizzik 时间: 2010-5-6 19:07

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focuseric 发表于 2010-5-6 05:14

1、翻牌前2BB也就罢了，但是flop彩池325，150的c-bet太小了，至少bet到225

2、turn没什么好控制的，两个玩家翻牌上都只是跟注。没有什么明显的迹象表明BU有可能偷取这个彩池。持续下注就好了。如果你不持续下注这里，那你转牌持续下注哪些牌？

3、河牌只是跟注，你的AA其实没有得到什么实惠，一则会输给主动下注的人，二则这笔钱你原本完全可以在转牌让他们付给你的并不需要指望对手诈唬一个3way pot

作者: skizzik 时间: 2010-5-6 19:09

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focuseric 发表于 2010-5-6 05:44

我发现你的一个主要问题就是bet size偏软

如果是后期那种每个人都不到10BB，all-in or fold的阶段也就罢了。25/50这个层级你也老是rasie 2BB，对手call 1BB跟你打一个你OOP的pot，你翻牌后夺得彩池的几率你统计一下，看看有50%不

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-7 01:47

1、翻牌前2BB也就罢了，但是flop彩池325，150的c-bet太小了，至少bet到225

2、turn没什么好控制的 ...
skizzik 发表于 2010-5-6 19:07

谢谢你啊skizzik，这么认真帮我看牌，提到的三点意见都让我觉得很在点子上。
我不喜欢写东西但是喜欢听取别人的意见，争取从loose weak朝aggresive调一调。

作者: zhizunbao 时间: 2010-5-12 21:04
路过标记一下

作者: bedok 时间: 2010-5-13 15:21
oooo &# 9824

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-22 04:51
本帖最后由 focuseric 于 2010-5-22 05:00 编辑

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (BB) ($73.45)
SB ($81.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10s, 10c
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $2.50

Flop: ($8) 2h, 3d, 6d (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($17) Jc (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($17) 10h (2 players)
Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

Total pot: $37 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB mucked 8c, 8h (one pair, eights).
Hero had 10s, 10c (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $36.50

此人attempt to steal 75%, call 3bet 73%，我不断地等啊等，终于等到一手value bet的牌。

flop: charge for flush draw，high cards。

turn: check to see river。

river value bet: 最近看Ed Miller，对手的行动取决于他手中的牌。
A high不可能call，
busted draw不可能call，
这家伙turn aggr factor 44%，TP不太可能，
能够榨取的就是mid pair了。
我在turn上示弱，他call 1/2 pot的可能性比较大。
终于要离开瑞士了哈哈哈～～～明天看决赛喝酒庆祝一下

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-22 04:59
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (BB) ($91.20)
SB ($63.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qc, 6c
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $3.50, SB calls $2

Flop: ($7) 8d, Qd, 6s (2 players)
Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

Turn: ($15) As (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, SB calls $8.50

River: ($32) Ac (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $13, Hero calls $13

Total pot: $58 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 7c, 5d (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Qc, 6c (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $57.50

PF:忘记为什么要3bet了。好像是两桌一起打按错了。

flop: 中奖了。charge for straight draw。charge for flush draw。

turn: charge for yet another flush draw!!! value bet TP。

river: i got rivered的可能相当地小。如果他有A在turn上raise的可能性很大。
于是我又开始在心里默默计算pot odds（这个坏习惯一定要改掉，脱掉calling station的帽子）
主要是call他的各种busted draw。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-22 05:12
本帖最后由 focuseric 于 2010-5-22 05:21 编辑

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (BB) ($55.85)
SB ($89.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4c, 5c
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 5h, 4d, Jd (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB raises to $88.45 (All-In), Hero calls $49.85 (All-In)

Turn: ($111.70) 8c (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($111.70) Jc (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $111.70 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 3d, 2d (one pair, Jacks).
Hero had 4c, 5c (two pair, Jacks and fives).
Outcome: Hero won $111.20

真是经典的教科书案例！

我的winning chance为（我大概估摸着胡算的）：
最坏的情况：against J set ~ 1/45 * 1/44可以忽略不计了。
coin flip: flush draw ~ 32%，straight draw ~ 32%。
against over pair， TPTK: ~ 72%。

call定了，yeah~~~

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-24 04:49
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (BB) ($55.40)
SB ($110.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kd, Js
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) Jh, 4s, 8d (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($13) 8s (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($28) 10c (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Total pot: $30 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had Qc, Qh (two pair, Queens and eights).
Hero mucked Kd, Js (two pair, Jacks and eights).
Outcome: SB won $29.50

Turn上根据他的bet: Set, Over pair, mid pair。
幸好他在river上bet amount很小。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-24 04:53
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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (BB) ($51.45)
SB ($87.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with As, Kd
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $2.50

Flop: ($8) 9h, Jc, 5s (2 players)
Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

Turn: ($16) 4c (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($16) 9d (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, SB calls $12.50

Total pot: $41 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 10h, Jh (two pair, Jacks and nines).
Hero had As, Kd (one pair, nines).
Outcome: SB won $40.50

实验river bluff失败。可能在turn上bet 12.5会比较有效。
River上任何over pair, mid pair都会call。只有high cards会fold。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-24 05:00
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (BB) ($70.30)
SB ($75.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10h, 9c
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 6h, 8h, 7d (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7) Kh (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17) 9d (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $13.50, Hero calls $13.50

Total pot: $44 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had Jh, 7h (flush, King high).
Hero mucked 10h, 9c (straight, ten high).
Outcome: SB won $43.50

此人flop上cbet 80%， turn上cbet 45%。
flop上check-call不好。太贪心。
river上call big bet不好。他可能有flush，straight（除非是J high不然大部分check）。其他hand range不太可能make a big bet。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-24 05:04
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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (BB) ($50.50)
SB ($52.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kd, Qh
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 2c, 5d, 8c (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7) Qs (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17) 3s (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

Total pot: $42 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 5s, 8s (two pair, eights and fives).
Hero mucked Kd, Qh (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: SB won $41.50

自作孽不可活。pre-flop不re-raise，river硬是用top顶牛big bet，就是这个结果。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-25 02:41
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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($64.55)
BB ($65.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5h, Ah
Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10) Ac, 4d, 2h (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($10) 4h (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($10) 2s (2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $7

Total pot: $38 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
Hero had 5h, Ah (two pair, Aces and fours).
BB had As, 7s (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: BB won $37.50

river上raise，主要取决于对手call的时候我有没有55%的winning chance。
对手会call我raise的range是full house(不太可能)，Ax（这里判断失误了，此人flop cbet 75%，check让我觉得他没有A，而且我也没有好好注意他的river bet size 7/10），以及mid pairs。
这里Ax的可能是2*9 = 18 combos
mid pairs 33 + 55-KK = 6*10 = 60 combos

这里从combo来看似乎value raise是对的，可能weight to the combos不对吧。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-25 02:48
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($78.30)
BB ($45.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ad, 5d
Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10) 5h, 5s, Qc (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

Turn: ($22) Ks (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($22) 4c (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

Total pot: $46 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
Hero had Ad, 5d (three of a kind, fives).
BB mucked 7s, Ah (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero won $45.50

无他，就是昨天看了Sklansky的书，里面讲到示弱，这里试用一下。
Preflop call 3bet是因为这家伙3bet我36%！疯子！
river希望他preflop 3bet用的是high cards，里面有Q或者K。
唯一的风险是free card to draw flush。
最后他用A high call我，没有想到

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作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-25 03:00
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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (BB) ($74.75)
SB ($62.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Js, Qd
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 9d, Qs, 8d (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $2, Hero raises to $5.50, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($14) Ac (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($14) 4h (2 players)
Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

Total pot: $26 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 10s, Ad (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Js, Qd (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: SB won $25.50

这个。。。river上还是check-call好一些。
busted straight draw不会call，但是有可能induce bluff。
9 pair在flop被raise以后，在river上应该不会被call。
可以call的，就只剩下slow playing straight，Top pair了。

主要是flop raise得到的信息和river bet没有联系起来，不好。

作者: focuseric 时间: 2010-5-25 03:06
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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($62.50)
BB ($74.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9s, Ac
Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) Js, 7s, 3s (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6) 5c (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6) 9d (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Total pot: $16 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
Hero mucked 9s, Ac (one pair, nines).
BB had 6s, Ks (flush, King high).
Outcome: BB won $15.50

我承认，这手是hero call。
当时觉得他没有Top pair，最有可能busted flush draw。
如果是mid pair，他可以check-call。

call这一手，还有一个原因是他之前已经big river bet好几次了，想看看他的river bet size到底代表什么。

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