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作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:06
标题: 每日手牌分析2014/3/15
本帖最后由 alnbrutal 于 2014-3-16 00:08 编辑

第一手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454705
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Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $32.68
BB: $47.63
UTG: $25.44
MP: $47.73
CO: $44.93

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A K
UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, UTG raises to $7.10, Hero raises to $25 all in, UTG calls $17.90

Final Pot: $50.35
Hero mucks A K
UTG shows A A (a pair of Aces)
UTG wins $24.18
UTG wins $24.17
(Rake: $2.00)

这个牌应该没什么说的。。。反正看对手数据我觉得flop推了AK是+EV的,撞到对手AA。

作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:09
第二手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454706
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BTN: $24.13
SB: $76.25
Hero (BB): $28.59
UTG: $25.00
MP: $38.41
CO: $29.18

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.62, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, CO raises to $4.75, Hero raises to $10, CO raises to $29.18 all in, Hero calls $18.59 all in

Flop: ($57.28) 6 K T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($57.28) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($57.28) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $57.28
Hero shows A A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
CO shows K A (three of a kind, Kings)
CO wins $55.28
(Rake: $2.00)

这牌也没什么好说的,AA和AK allin,发出2个K,我被BB。。。
作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:11
本帖最后由 alnbrutal 于 2014-3-16 00:36 编辑

第三首Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454708
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Hero (BTN): $26.48
SB: $15.71
BB: $65.79
UTG: $38.08
MP: $29.69
CO: $39.79

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, CO raises to $4.75, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($9.85) 8 K 6 (2 players)
CO bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($14.35) 2 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.35) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $3, Hero calls $3

这手牌大家给点意见,结果我就不放了。river应该 fold/check/raise?
我在这里选择了call
作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:12
第四手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454710
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BTN: $36.89
Hero (SB): $51.58
BB: $25.10
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.10
CO: $32.91

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 8 8
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 8 3 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.16, CO raises to $8, Hero raises to $14.18, CO calls $6.18

Turn: ($30.11) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.13, CO calls $17.98 all in

River: ($66.07) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $66.07
Hero shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
CO shows A T (a flush, Ace high)
CO wins $64.07
(Rake: $2.00)

啥都不说了,BB
作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:14
本帖最后由 alnbrutal 于 2014-3-16 00:37 编辑

第五手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454711
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BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $28.62
BB: $36.11
UTG: $34.92
MP: $61.15
CO: $25.51

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K A
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 8 K 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.31, UTG calls $2.31

Turn: ($9.37) T (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: ($21.37) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $14.25, Hero calls $14.25

这手牌基本上我river上已经变成了一个bluff catcher了,问题在于,在zoom 25这个级别上,用AKcall对手3枪allin是+EV的么?

作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:15
本帖最后由 alnbrutal 于 2014-3-16 00:39 编辑

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454712
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Hero (BTN): $27.45
SB: $40.90
BB: $16.64
UTG: $26.37
MP: $25.25
CO: $25.60

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 7 7
UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 4 6 4 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.56, BB folds, UTG calls $1.56

Turn: ($5.47) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.65, UTG raises to $7.30, Hero calls $3.65

River: ($20.07) J (2 players)
UTG bets $16.76 all in, Hero calls $16.76

和上一手牌有点像,我这里基本就是抓bluff了。。。问题是这个抓bluff是不是有利可图?
作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:17
本帖最后由 alnbrutal 于 2014-3-16 00:39 编辑

第七手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454720
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Hero (BTN): $47.12
SB: $27.64
BB: $30.33
UTG: $30.88
MP: $67.63
CO: $15.46

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $0.70, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, UTG raises to $5.90, Hero calls $3.65

Flop: ($12.15) T 3 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.80, Hero calls $5.80

Turn: ($23.75) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $19.18 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $23.75
UTG wins $22.68
(Rake: $1.07)

一个超对面对对手这么猛的下注,不过在这个2同花听牌的牌面上对手确实有可能有无数听牌,不过考虑到对手翻牌前4bet,我觉得对手AA,KK,QQ的可能性很大。
作者: alnbrutal    时间: 2014-3-16 00:19
本帖最后由 alnbrutal 于 2014-3-16 00:41 编辑

第八手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454721
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BTN: $24.65
SB: $36.16
Hero (BB): $48.57
UTG: $12.50
MP: $27.46
CO: $25.59

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 9 9
UTG raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) K 9 J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.07, Hero raises to $3.63, UTG calls $2.56

Turn: ($8.86) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.31, UTG calls $4.31

River: ($17.48) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $15.02, UTG calls $3.81 all in

这手牌我觉得需要讨论的就是turn上面是直接推了好还是像我这样慢打。因为在turn出来我已经无论如何不会弃牌了,不管river出什么。
作者: Ander_AK    时间: 2014-3-16 03:27
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:15
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454712
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turn是个easy check吧。

rv 肯定要fold。

作者: Ander_AK    时间: 2014-3-16 03:28
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:19
第八手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454721
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turn的6太空白了,对手跟注flop的牌,很少会fold turn。直接jam turn阿。

作者: 西红柿哥哥    时间: 2014-3-16 09:11
第三首,可疑在转牌下注3刀,遇到加注放弃,遇到跟住河底继续价值下注,他很可能拿着比你小的对子。既然转牌选择过牌,河底也应该加注到10刀,他的注那么小,很可能是jj,tt等牌的弱价值下注,也可能是kkk或者aa慢打,我觉得比你小的对子可能性更大,而且你转牌的过牌支持你河底加10刀吓唬的逻辑,他有手对会call
第五手,不用想是一定要call的,这是你ak过牌最想看到的牌局进程不是吗?比你大的这个筹码深度,你跑不掉,比你小的或者吓唬也打完所有筹码,很好的结果。
第六手问题很大,干燥牌面转牌的迷你加注得非常小心,如果不是你的形象很烂,或者对手异常奔放,河底一定要放弃得,他很可能aa或者葫芦,这里吓唬可能性很少。
第七手,我要么原则在翻牌前放弃,要么选择在翻牌圈迷你加注。一直call很糟糕
作者: syhugo    时间: 2014-3-16 11:16
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:14
第五手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454711
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是我的话,会无条件打完的,不过可能还是会考虑对手这里UTG call 3bet的范围吧,如果对手call的range 里面有JdQd,AdJd之类的牌,我会在turn上x/r-allin的。
作者: syhugo    时间: 2014-3-16 11:21
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:15
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1.river抓bluff是否有利可图?我觉得无利可图,因为turn上对手可以call同时还比我们差的只有22 33 55 6X,但是river不太可能拿这些去value。
2.基于上面的假设对手不会拿draw在turn上call我们,我倾向于turn上x/c, river x/f to a normal bet.
作者: syhugo    时间: 2014-3-16 11:29
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:17
第七手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454720
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1. 不知对少utg的open range是什么,如果是12以下,我不觉得JJ 3bet这里是一个profit play如果对手反抗12中的最好的3分之一的牌,对手4bet回来的牌都比我们好,同时JJ in position post flop 应该是比较容易play的一手牌吧;
2.如果对手反抗3分之一balance的牌的话,我们也同样面临这种很尴尬的局面,即被对手AQs打弃牌率,但是却拿不到TT,99的价值(虽然我面对一个很少对utg加注的对手可能会fold掉99,TT这样的牌,但是这里假设了对手是一个balance的range,不妨考虑进去)

作者: syhugo    时间: 2014-3-16 11:32
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:19
第八手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454721
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1.这UTG应该不是regular吧
2.turn上我会直接push all-in,因为正如你所说的river什么牌都fold不掉,turn直接打完是正确的决定

作者: syhugo    时间: 2014-3-16 11:43
本帖最后由 syhugo 于 2014-3-16 15:38 编辑

第一手牌
前一段时间我拿着AK,也是这样打的,后来发现有一些问题,但是没有全部解答出来:
1.对手这里的4bet 是否可能fold给5bet呢?如果我们自身形象好的话,对手应该是不太可能4bet light and fold to 5bet的吧。
2.对手拿什么range4bet呢?如果对手不会fold5bet,我觉得我们最好的情况是抛硬币。
3.退一步说对手拿着跟我们抛硬币的牌?我觉得我们有位置却和对手直接翻牌前就打到了all-in是不是一个错误呢?
4.当然3betpot中还有一个因素就是主动权的优势,对手4bet回来是有主动权的,所以问题转化成我们因为主动权损失的EV和5bet all in损失的EV那个更严重呢?
最后一个问题我没有明确的答案,但是我觉得还是取决于对手的range。

作者: gulugulubing    时间: 2014-3-16 23:46
Lz,请问你这个牌普转换器怎么用的啊?我用的适用版本的PT3,把下面内容复制进去,但转换不出来
iPoker - €0.05 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3:
BB: €2.11
UTG: €6.28
MP: €2.99
CO: €5.04
BTN: €2.44
Hero (SB): €4.72
Hero posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.05
Pre Flop: (€0.07) Hero has Jc Jd
fold, fold, fold, BTN calls €0.05, Hero raises to €0.20, fold, BTN calls €0.15
Flop: (€0.45, 2 players) 8s 5h 8h
Hero checks, BTN bets €0.25, Hero calls €0.25
Turn: (€0.95, 2 players) 9d
Hero checks, BTN bets €0.35, Hero calls €0.35
River: (€1.65, 2 players) 9h
Hero checks, BTN bets €1.64, Hero calls €1.64
BTN shows 8c 3c (Full House, Eights full of Nines) (PreFlop 16%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks Jc Jd (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines) (PreFlop 84%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN wins €4.61
作者: kaiqiang    时间: 2014-3-30 22:18
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:11
第三首Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454708
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这牌我觉得对方大概率是QQ、JJ,很小概率的TT,理由如下:如果是AK,应该是连打三条街而且会打得比较重以拿足价值;所以你QQ一路check call比较恰当。

作者: kaiqiang    时间: 2014-3-30 22:31
alnbrutal 发表于 2014-3-16 00:19
第八手
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2454721
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BB位中底set9,这么潮湿的面应该领先下注吧。次序搞错了,楼主打这手牌的时候你自己不困惑吗?对手比你还着急,难道是两对,大的set?或者是AK做cbet?如果只是听牌,没必要打得这么急吧?





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