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作者: raiseitup 时间: 2013-4-26 14:49
标题: 求英文解释
最近在看jeff hwang PLO的书他的PART 1 "floating"我一直找不到一个合适的中文解释。。求大神能不能帮我解惑一下谢谢！！

作者: dawnsail 时间: 2013-4-26 16:20
之前有人提到过，用延迟bluff比较合适

作者: grandmacau 时间: 2013-4-26 16:41
我听一些资深牌友管这叫“漂移手”。

作者: mooch 时间: 2013-4-26 16:47
有人翻译缠（打）

作者: raiseitup 时间: 2013-4-26 17:14

grandmacau 发表于 2013-4-26 16:41
我听一些资深牌友管这叫“漂移手”。

好像漂移手比较霸气一点。。

作者: riverismyfriend 时间: 2013-4-26 17:18
call a bet with marginal holdings, with the intention to take the pot away when original bettor shows weakness in future street.

作者: notch 时间: 2013-4-26 17:42
个人比较喜欢“缠打”这个说法，比较形象
对于那些较直白的玩家，或者性急玩家比较有效果
对前者可以小风险拿锅，对后者可以拿nut value

作者: raiseitup 时间: 2013-4-26 17:45

riverismyfriend 发表于 2013-4-26 17:18
call a bet with marginal holdings, with the intention to take the pot away when original bettor sh ...

谢谢你。。。我觉得这个英文解释最适合我当下的理解。。非常感谢

作者: monox0 时间: 2013-4-29 10:03
本帖最后由 monox0 于 2013-4-29 10:05 编辑

我的兴趣是搞点语言学习和研究的，所以特别考证了一下。

下文（如果你英文好的话) 可以发现他词源学上和float 本意:漂浮的关系不是很大，而且是被一个人发明的

但这里引申了一下: 如果你用烂牌跟注对手的下注(bet), 你就好似“盘旋”或者“漂浮”在对手的下注之上，伺机拿下。很多词你很难找到对应的中文，因为外文也是新发明的，所以用“缠打”解释我觉得有点到位。

如果要让我发明一个词的话： hmmmm.... 游击??浮打? loll maybe kinda weird.

Defination
Calling a bet without a good hand intending to bluff the bettor later in the hand.

Popular Uses
I'm gonna float the flop and hope to knock him out of the hand on the turn. -Unknown

Etymology
It's a little known fact, but the term "float" was invented out of whole cloth by the highstakes poker player Matt Szymaszek, and credit is overdue.

But Seriously, Folks
The term comes from the idea that when your opponent puts out his bet (generally on the flop), you call, waiting for the opportunity to strike later. You are sort of hovering or "floating" over your opponent/your opponent's bet, getting ready to seize the opportunity to take the pot.

Floating Scenario
A common situation in which you might attempt a float is when faced with an over-aggressive player. He can't hit a hand every time, so as long as he has shown at least some ability to lay his hand down, you may want to try floating him on the flop if you think he's just making a continuation bet with air.

作者: riverismyfriend 时间: 2013-4-29 18:17
float itself is a passive move with an aggressive intention, all of the chinese translations mentioned above sound like an aggressive move.

作者: notch 时间: 2013-4-30 09:14
感觉float还是有伺机而动的意思，对手示强就飘走，示弱就打一注希望拿下

作者: Jac 时间: 2013-4-30 11:38
粘，橡皮膏

作者: raiseitup 时间: 2013-5-1 19:15

monox0 发表于 2013-4-29 10:03
我的兴趣是搞点语言学习和研究的，所以特别考证了一下。

下文（如果你英文好的话) 可以发现他词源学上和fl ...

i think the best defination is riveismyfriend's :call a bet with marginal holdings, with the intention to take the pot away when original bettor shows weakness in future street. but as hwang says, floating is highly dependent on our opponents..im doing perrty well in position when i saw some1 over LAG.. or they bet the half pot at very dryboard in mutil way...i always floading then bet 2/3pot and take it down when they shows weakness on the turn.. but out of position??? fking hard mate..i need2 work on my book really hard{:soso_e125:}

作者: raiseitup 时间: 2013-5-1 19:17

riverismyfriend 发表于 2013-4-29 18:17
float itself is a passive move with an aggressive intention, all of the chinese translations mention ...

good point

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