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5 6 (2 players)
(2 players)很明显turn你call他的raise，river是否来了个4、9红桃？他手上有张7红桃成同花顺了？如果是这样真的很杯具！
[quote="David Chiu":32ic3buc]很明显turn你call他的raise，river是否来了个4、9红桃？他手上有张7红桃成同花顺了？如果是这样真的很杯具！
avid这个大魔头也会这等幽默，真是太阳在西边出来了。 [s:167] [s:167] [s:167]我们都猜楼主杯具了这是不是一个误区 [s:180]
重新猜是A 8.
2）Flop出来 8 5 6 中了顶对，但怕对方中了flush。bet half－size pot 试探一下。这时Smallma riase to 10bb，略小于锅大小（12bb），可能性太多，但call的成本不大，call。
3）Turn出来A。中了两顶对。check继续观望，Smallma bet 又是略小于锅大小。这时我觉得对手判断Smallma信心不足，不是flush。（因为如果是flush，完全可以bet pot－size或者更高？） 而且很有可能是等flush，而这时他已经中了两顶对，没理由不raise到很高的地步，将对方等花的成本升高，所以Raise到156 ？
KK..其中有Kh
我猜他是AsAd，翻牌前慢打翻牌对他不利，接着慢打，又放不下AAcall了你的加注，转牌来A希望你还没有成牌，河牌来什么只有天知道了，反正不会来A了！最好来个6你就被套住了！
其实他smooth call raise flop then check raise almost all in turn show huge strenghth. Your hand is way behind normally.
For one if he pushes you on flop, it gives you more odds to call with nut flush draw. He pushes on turn, you absolutely have no odds to call at all if you only have A of heart. Not much difference either with 2 pair which only adds 4 more outs. Secondly, he knows he has the nuts after flop, if he raises you after flop, he is worried to scare you away when you have top pair, over pair or simply bluffing air. He traps you for one more bet then he raises all in to win a bigger pot right there or for you to call with even less odds. His plan is simple. If the board pairs for turn or another heart comes out. He probably checks/calls 2 bets to see a show down. If it doesn't happen, then he induces a bet from you and raises you all in. You are almost certain to bet big with over pair, two pair, sets or even semi-bluff with A of heart.
On the other hand, what was your plan? You have two pair + nut flush draw. two pair is not a very strong hand facing turn reraise all in. your turn bet changed from a value bet to a semi bluff after his raise. You are way behind when he raised your turn. It is a fold. Because one does not play like this with a draw, whatever draw he has unless he is a fish. He has at least two pair A 8, set, straight or flush. No matter what. you are way behind. You do not have odds to call that raise, neither should you shove, becahse you have no fold equity and he will call you for sure with the stack size.
I think this guy played well. Thanks for sharing the hands. I learned a lot from him.
其实他smooth call raise flop then check raise almost all in turn show huge strenghth. Your hand is way behind normally.
Secondly, he knows he has the nuts after flop
His plan is simple. If the board pairs for turn or another heart comes out. He probably checks/calls 2 bets to see a show down. If it doesn't happen, then he induces a bet from you and raises you all in. You are almost certain to bet big with over pair, two pair, sets or even semi-bluff with A of heart.
On the other hand, what was your plan? You have two pair + nut flush draw. two pair is not a very strong hand facing turn reraise all in. your turn bet changed from a value bet to a semi bluff after his raise. You are way behind when he raised your turn. It is a fold. Because one does not play like this with a draw, whatever draw he has unless he is a fish. He has at least two pair A 8, set, straight or flush. No matter what. you are way behind. You do not have odds to call that raise, neither should you shove, becahse you have no fold equity and he will call you for sure with the stack size.
[quote="windstormm":3if1baha]其实他smooth call raise flop then check raise almost all in turn show huge strenghth. Your hand is way behind normally.
Secondly, he knows he has the nuts after flop
His plan is simple. If the board pairs for turn or another heart comes out. He probably checks/calls 2 bets to see a show down. If it doesn't happen, then he induces a bet from you and raises you all in. You are almost certain to bet big with over pair, two pair, sets or even semi-bluff with A of heart.
On the other hand, what was your plan? You have two pair + nut flush draw. two pair is not a very strong hand facing turn reraise all in. your turn bet changed from a value bet to a semi bluff after his raise. You are way behind when he raised your turn. It is a fold. Because one does not play like this with a draw, whatever draw he has unless he is a fish. He has at least two pair A 8, set, straight or flush. No matter what. you are way behind. You do not have odds to call that raise, neither should you shove, becahse you have no fold equity and he will call you for sure with the stack size.
He simply wanted to take the pot right here because he already milked out one more bet from you. He didn't want to give you any odds to call. Obviously he didn't since you have no odds at all to call.. but you called anyway. and great river! After turn raise the only hand you can beat really is bluff. You haven't committed much anyway. it is a easy fold.
I disagree. He calls here. A lot of player could think he has a A or K high flush draw. If you have a set or even top pair. Would you have to bet and bet hard to get value of of his flush draw? plus plenty of semibluffs on turn. I think his plan works more often than not. It obviously worked this time as well.
first you say he bets too little flop.. now you said he bet too much on turn.. 呵呵.
no matter what i think he outplayed you on this hand but you sucked out. throughout he read it right that he is way ahead until river and you either didn't know what he has or you do but still shoved mistakenly.
我一开始认为是baby flush，Q high也不算小了，嘿嘿。我觉得这手牌对手已经对你有很好的阅读了。turn上的shove表明，对手知道你手里有一张红心大过Q，他不想被bb.第一，在这里直接拿下是不错的选择。第二，你call上，river没有红心的话，你就会付出惨重代价了。whatever,u got lucky on the river.
[quote="unlimitspeed":1nsm9hhv]我一开始认为是baby flush，Q high也不算小了，嘿嘿。我觉得这手牌对手已经对你有很好的阅读了。turn上的shove表明，对手知道你手里有一张红心大过Q，他不想被bb.第一，在这里直接拿下是不错的选择。第二，你call上，river没有红心的话，你就会付出惨重代价了。whatever,u got lucky on the river.
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